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From Hans | dotdotcommadot <h...@dotdotcommadot.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Release InstallApacheFlex 1.0 - RC8
Date Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:20:02 GMT
What I think:
- folder name: "Apache Flex"
Further nesting to a folder "Utilities" is unnecessary, since we don't have any "production"
applications (like for instance Flash Builder, or Flash), and most likely never will release
any. All of our apps will most likely stay "utilities"; applications you only use once in
a while. So "Apache Flex" as a root seems sufficient to me as long as we don't have to distinguish
"types" of apps, but: a subfolder underneath the "applications/program files" folder is necessary
because I think only apps I use on a every day basis should be in the root "Application" folder
on my Mac. The "bulk" applications that are mere utils, should be contained in a subfolder.

- a desktop and taskbar shortcut seems irrelevant as wel, since it is very unlikely that people
will use this app on a every day basis.

So I would say: just a "clean" installation: an intuitive name I can easily find when using
"spotlight" on my mac, but not too visible/in-your-face installed because I'm not going to
use this app every day.
This will definitely make it look a lot more professional allready :).
Right?



On 24 Oct 2012, at 09:17, Om <bigosmallm@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Oct 23, 2012 11:35 PM, "Erik de Bruin" <erik@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
>> 
>> Ah, a Windows thing ;-) I really didn't see the point, but had no
>> objection... but I'm on a Mac. On Windows, yes, I totally agree that
>> it should be in a general directory 'Apache Flex', but maybe not in
>> it's own subdirectory, but in a directory 'utilities'? And are we (or
>> the Installer installer) creating shortcuts in the Start menu (while
>> it lasts...) and on the Desktop? If so, what are their names?
>> 
>> All this ties very strongly with the "first impressions" thing, which
>> I feel very strong about.
>> 
>> EdB
> 
> It's not just a Windows thing.  The same exact directory structure will be
> under the /Applications/ directory on the Mac as well.
> 
> Also, I agree that the name "Apache Flex SDK Installer" sounds much better.
> 
> Thanks,
> Om
> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Om <bigosmallm@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Oct 23, 2012 10:36 PM, "Alex Harui" <aharui@adobe.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I'm ok with reviewing another RC, but I don't think it is necessary.
> At
>>> any
>>>> point in time, we might want to change its name again later to qualify
>>> some
>>>> other aspect of the release.
>>> 
>>> It is not the name I am worried about.   It is about directory in which
> it
>>> will get installed under.
>>> 
>>> Instead of installing under Program Files(x86)/InstallApacheFlex/, we
>>> should install it under Program Files(x86)/Apache
> Flex/InstallApacheFlex.
>>> This will help be more organized when we release more utilities/tools.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Om
>>> 
>>>> I hope for the next SDK release the installer releases at the same time
>>> and
>>>> shows up in the web page right under it source packages so it is clear
>>> what
>>>> it is going to install.
>>>> 
>>>> On 10/23/12 10:27 PM, "Erik de Bruin" <erik@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> You know I'm always up for another RC :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> EdB
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 6:47 AM, Om <bigosmallm@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Hans | dotdotcommadot <
>>>>>> hans@dotdotcommadot.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> +1. Great job, definitely!
>>>>>>> Looks and functions good enough for now, although I reeeeally
think
>>> the
>>>>>>> name of the application should not be "InstallApacheFlex" but
it
>>> should be
>>>>>>> in a folder "Apache Flex" and be called "Apache Flex SDK
> Installer",
>>>>>>> especially for the first official release.
>>>>>> You make too much sense :-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This sounds easy enough to do.   And if we dont do it now, we wont
> be
>>> able
>>>>>> to do this in subsequent releases without causing confusion.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> RC9 okay with folks?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Om
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 23 Oct 2012, at 19:49, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <nicholas@spoon.as>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> +1 (Binding)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Good work again guys.  Excited to tell the world about it
;)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -Nick
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Hans | dotdotcommadot <
>>>>>>>> hans@dotdotcommadot.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> This is true.
>>>>>>>>> When you build with a different certificate,
>>>>>>>>> you always need to delete the previous installed version
of an
>>>>>>> application
>>>>>>>>> in order to install the new version.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 23 Oct 2012, at 17:21, Erik de Bruin <erik@ixsoftware.nl>
> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> This might be the issue where you need to uninstall
a previous
>>> version
>>>>>>>>>> of the app first. Om explained something about certificates...
> Om?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> EdB
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Carol Frampton <
> cframpto@adobe.com
>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Installed and all went fine.  md5 matched for
both platforms.
>>> Line
>>>>>>>>> ending
>>>>>>>>>>> are correct for the platform.  Simple AIR and
Players apps
> compile
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> FlashBuilder 4.7 on OSX.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> However then I clicked the Install InstallApacheFlex
icon again
>>> and I
>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>> the "Sorry an error has occurred.  This application
can not be
>>>>>>> installed
>>>>>>>>>>> because the installer has been misconfigured."
 I expected the
>>> "this
>>>>>>>>>>> application is already installed" message.  Is
anyone else
> seeing
>>>>>>> this?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Carol
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/22/12 3 :07PM, "Om" <bigosmallm@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Issues addressed in this Release Candidate:*
>>>>>>>>>>>> Disabled (i.e. hid) UI for selecting languages.
 The app will
> now
>>>>>>>>> default
>>>>>>>>>>>> to en_US.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Other languages will be enabled again in
the next release
> after
>>> bug
>>>>>>>>> fixing
>>>>>>>>>>>> and thorough testing.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the first official release of the
InstallApacheFlex
> AIR
>>>>>>>>>>>> application.  The official Apache distribution
is the source
> kit
>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>> contain only source.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> The source distributions for Windows and
Mac are available
> here:
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~bigosmallm/installapacheflex_RC8/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> The binary distributions as a convenience
for the respective
>>>>>>> platforms,
>>>>>>>>>>>> available here:
>>> http://people.apache.org/~bigosmallm/installapacheflex_RC8/binaries/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Along with the installer, we are releasing
the 'badge
> installer'
>>> that
>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>> be embedded in our site as well as third-party
websites.  Here
>>> is a
>>>>>>>>>>>> preview:
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/flex/installer.html
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Before voting please review the section,*
>>>>>>>>>>>> "What are the ASF requirements on approving
a release?" at
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#approving-a-release
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Please vote to approve this release:*
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] +1 Approve the release
>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] -1 Veto the release (please provide specific
comments)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> This vote will be open for at least 72 hours.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Om & Erik
>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Flex PPMC members + Release managers
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Ix Multimedia Software
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Jan Luykenstraat 27
>>>>>>>>>> 3521 VB Utrecht
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> T. 06-51952295
>>>>>>>>>> I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Alex Harui
>>>> Flex SDK Team
>>>> Adobe Systems, Inc.
>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Ix Multimedia Software
>> 
>> Jan Luykenstraat 27
>> 3521 VB Utrecht
>> 
>> T. 06-51952295
>> I. www.ixsoftware.nl

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