Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2812CDC94 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 07:47:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 90794 invoked by uid 500); 26 Sep 2012 07:47:39 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 90690 invoked by uid 500); 26 Sep 2012 07:47:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact flex-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 90675 invoked by uid 99); 26 Sep 2012 07:47:38 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 07:47:38 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [209.85.223.175] (HELO mail-ie0-f175.google.com) (209.85.223.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 07:47:31 +0000 Received: by iebc13 with SMTP id c13so671343ieb.6 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 00:47:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=qd2cc23Bz9neluCGGU10/szHVPzbAjBRopFjtp1Rhng=; b=DW61HnZurTf1lbujihQpE7iB0nFBP0Iijlqeq9QZVZ/BfhvH9APJ0tGhzZTOEd1/8u 4wKJScG6IQYY6cN3BFlyLcvYOPyFGg31+gf0+2K0lvkck8P/IN0Iv/hMfFXrAsGFxVAy rOrizwUTZVW3u7whILZ89bdaF/VbfAxu1WX7jt9ijrLFcuAPPyWfU9BFCtnvZwmrg5lH CJIgim8ACI2sUS7m2CeOKO+Ne+tv2zsJgVhMMVT8vknh/sDq/A4IAxQRt8rJZ0GGh/4j WeVzoRSuhSDQm7s1HGVYJnlqMrnMJn8JC2pD6vd1n4xStb9y5AvuW6z6ltElwa4UY4An ZXjw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.39.197 with SMTP id i5mr13844387ice.27.1348645630809; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 00:47:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.165.8 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 00:47:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:47:10 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release InstallApacheFlex 1.0 - RC5 From: Erik de Bruin To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlpyw70BrGA4ulVltAc6kKLI7LsyjJMq/txTLEpXdY7hK4I4woM7FRNEsf0xv1MTGF9c6oR This is starting to feel like the never-ending [VOTE] :( Are all releases going to be like this, or will it get better (smoother, less frustrating) later on? I've taken a few deep breaths and re-read all comments on this. Although I honestly feel that adding another dialog to the program will do nothing to educate the user - after all, who really reads them, you click OK and get on with what you came to the installer for, downloading the SDK - I see the legal reasoning behind it and agree, reluctantly, that it should be included in the software. Om, if feel an RC6 (!) coming up in the near future. If you are willing and able to include the dialog in the app, please do. I'll be out until the middle of next week. If not done by then, I'll take care of it and of FLEX-33209, which, since we're cutting yet another release, we might as well include. EdB On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi Erik, > > On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Erik de Bruin wrote: >> ...Thank you for your feedback. In the spirit of your remarks I have >> added a paragraph "Note: ..." to the installer download page [1]. I >> also added language similar to that note to the disclaimer page [2]... > > I wouldn't duplicate the info at [2], rather point to [1] as > additional info about binaries. > > I also don't think the info at [1] is sufficient, it should include > the notion that the binaries (IIUC) are not checked by the installer, > and users installing at their own risk. > >> In version 1.1 we plan to address this in the application itself... > > I have created FLEX-33210 for now, affecting this release for now. > Personally I'm don't think it's good to let the installer out without > this warning - IIUC the use case is that people will see the installer > badge somewhere, click on it and probably not read [1], so IMO a > warning inside the installer is required if you want to be serious > about this. > > What do others think? > >> ...Also, I agree the language in the README should be corrected, but I >> don't see the current remark as a showstopper. We will also address >> this in version 1.1. The issue is recorded in FLEX-33209.... > > Agreed. > > -Bertrand > >> 1: http://incubator.apache.org/flex/installer.html >> 2: http://incubator.apache.org/flex/about-binaries.html -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB Utrecht T. 06-51952295 I. www.ixsoftware.nl