Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6CD2FDB11 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 13:34:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 8253 invoked by uid 500); 15 Aug 2012 13:34:49 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 8220 invoked by uid 500); 15 Aug 2012 13:34:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact flex-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 8212 invoked by uid 99); 15 Aug 2012 13:34:49 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 13:34:49 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of omarg.developer@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.47 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.212.47] (HELO mail-vb0-f47.google.com) (209.85.212.47) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 13:34:44 +0000 Received: by vbbfr13 with SMTP id fr13so1435487vbb.6 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 06:34:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=22WIQNrNj2GK385hh38mQcDmnUhpKzUad5e2zuC3Jl8=; b=mJ7vUsEEGWZ7iw4sFpLpcyqrjBkaaqks69+R6XGPLCReTkDWY1qYEd0S7/viV6J8Xm FK5fezgxzvVa7ftuX7DD2OkrP/2skdV3HbHFioOOhfj8OPTmFyrZhmaCZWOombOznDyk ie5Tf2ZdRd3fdjZrn0UcJdzz3mCOARW+tVHbE0sOPvki+LLOf3tqN4rTgYgv0sNX2cq3 bFpndV5NPA7Dvy/vB81guH68SEZt35bKHX+bDXfVC3FYmrc9amG7Ut2NKS++FICNyb8f ZsWnkRtyat4jh0YhqeHD+wkS+KqTyySfb//67FPfiOTa4ogOdQ21aoXFkpXNVOV1BcN5 wKSA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.100.229 with SMTP id fb5mr11152148vdb.102.1345037663443; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 06:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.249.139 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 06:34:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 06:34:23 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [MENTORS] Current Branching Strategy Vote Results From: Omar Gonzalez To: "flex-dev@incubator.apache.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f343e2398d504c74dfc43 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --20cf307f343e2398d504c74dfc43 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wednesday, August 15, 2012, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi Carlos, > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Carlos Rovira > > wrote: > > ...the problem is not about tooling. Is about the things we plan to do. > The > > revision and transformation of the core at flex... > > I guess that's where the disconnect is, I hear you and others saying > "we plan to do big things" but I see just small things (besides code > donations) happen at [1]. If you or others can show concrete examples > (i.e. code) of those big things that are impossible to do with svn > that might help change your mentors' opinions. And in the meantime, > there's probably lots of small to medium things to do to improve Flex > anyway. > > > ...If there's a development > > model based on SVN chaos, nobody will spend an hour to make it happen... > > Nobody said svn chaos...there are some serious projects like Hadoop, > httpd, Lucene, Solr for example which have *tons* more activity than > Flex currently has, and they're doing just fine with svn. > > -Bertrand Jut because those projects are running SVN does not equate to their projects running _as efficiently as they possibly could be_. Also, you keep posting links to SVN stats. This project was in a prolonged wait period because we were/are waiting for code donations (Mustella, can't make big changed without tests) and JIRA. It's hardly fair to compare our activity to projects that have been running forever. Did they wait 8 months for vital pieces of the project to make it thru legal review? I'm betting thy didn't. -omar --20cf307f343e2398d504c74dfc43--