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From Alex Harui <>
Subject Re: [ROADMAP] Apache Flex Steering Survey
Date Thu, 02 Aug 2012 00:22:24 GMT

I appreciate the effort, and more data is welcome, but I don't think Apache
projects have roadmaps or make commitments on what is going to be delivered
next.  No consensus has to be reached on what will be worked on.  Folks are
free to do what they want.

I also don't understand the items on the survey.  Automation, Samples
Themes, FABridge and Flash Integration were all donated and are the 4.8
release.  The MXMLC compiler code is as well.

Falcon, TLF, Blaze and 3.x have been promised by Adobe.  These results
aren't really going to change whether or when they get donated.

I also don't understand what 4.6 Accordion and other components like that
mean.  There is no 4.6 Spark Accordion and the MX Accordion is donated.
There are prototypes of these Spark components that have been promised by
Adobe and again, the survey results aren't going to affect the donation


On 8/1/12 4:03 PM, "Keith Sutton" <> wrote:

> All,
> Some of you may have seen tweets and emails concerning a Apache Flex
> Steering Survey which currently has more than 375 respondents since July
> 26th.
> With the successful release of Apache Flex 4.8.0-incubating (previously
> announced below) it is timely to have a discussion/consensus around the
> priorities going forward. Below is a link to a survey that will help
> guide discussions on objectives, priorities, features and functions
> (roadmap) that can guide effort over the next 6-12 months. This survey
> is 8 questions and should take less than 5 minutes to complete. Your
> input is extremely important to the project - thank you for your time.
> The survey will be open until Aug 21st.
> More background:
> The Apache Flex Steering Survey is being organized and executed by
> members of the 'Open Spoon Foundation' ( and affiliates in
> support of the Apache Flex Project. The Foundation (not-for-profit
> foundation) setup by the Adobe community in 2011 to capture the
> collective experience of those individuals implementing solutions on the
> Flex framework and to apply that knowledge in a constructive manner
> through defect patching, feature contribution and addressing aspects of
> the framework that limit extensibility. Spoon's has a membership of
> several hundred and growing (a number of who are Apache Flex committers
> and PMC members). The survey is part of an effort to bring the community
> together, plan and organize ourselves to move forward from the recent
> 4.8.0-incubating release. The next 6 months will be an important stage
> for Apache Flex during which Adobe's code/effort donations will be
> finalized and the first true 'new' release will be undertaken. It is
> also a critical time in the market to begin rebuilding interest and
> commitment in the technology. The chances of success at this environment
> will be greatly improved by a coordinated community effort towards the
> right objectives, which is what the steering survey is going to
> contribute towards. The survey is live right now & will remain open
> until August 21st, the data is meant to be used by Spoon and the Apache
> Flex project. No commercial or personal information will be shared
> publically, only aggregated results for the purpose of defining
> objectives, features and functions as part of the roadmap
> planning/organizing discussion.
> On 7/25/2012 12:25 PM, Keith Sutton wrote:
>> With the successful release of 4.8.0-incubating it would be timely to
>> have a discussion/consensus around the priorities going forward.
>> A couple of fundamental factors should be considered in this discussion:
>>     1) Adobe resources are not indefinite and from statements made
>>     early in the year it is possible they may no longer be available
>>     within 6+/- months (plan for the worst case). Once these resources
>>     are gone it will be significantly harder to access/transition code
>>     assets;
>>     2) Successful open source projects/communities are commercially
>>     viable, as much as open source is about cool technologies and code
>>     it is also about having the resources to do what they want for as
>>     long as they want;
>>     3) Within the Fortune 1000 companies which has the greater
>>     installed base and therefore need for support/transition - Flex 3;
>>     4) This is not a typical open source project that grows over time,
>>     this is a commercially viable product with a significant customer
>>     base and ecosystem, Apache Flex does not have the luxury of time
>>     as organizations wrestle with the decisions in the 6-12 months
>>     over Flex versus HTML5/JS/CSS (hope is not a roadmap).
>> After gleaning through emails and blog posts the following is a list
>> of potential things-to-do-next (please identify anything needing
>> addition/deletion). When considering what is a priority, ask yourself
>> 'is this essential to Apache Flex success beyond the next 6-12 months':
>>     1) 4.6 ViewStack
>>     2) 4.6 Accordion
>>     3) 4.6 DateField
>>     4) 4.6 DataChooser
>>     5) 4.6 Enhanced DataGrid
>>     6) 4.6 missing automation libraries
>>     7) 4.6 missing fabridge
>>     8) 4.6 missing flash-integration
>>     9) 4.6 missing samples
>>     10) 4.6 missing embedded font support
>>     11) 3.x Flex SDK
>>     12) Flex compiler source code
>>     13) BlazeDS/BlazeDS.NET
>>     14) TLF
>>     15) Gravity
>>     16) FXG
>>     17) Squiggles
>>     18) OSMF
>> Notes:
>> Falcon and Falcon JS are not on the list until Q4 2012 and beyond
>> Adobe "Not be contributing the AIR for Linux SDK, LCDS, or LCCS to Apache"
>> Adobe "will ensure that the Adobe Flex SDK 4.6 and prior will be
>> supported in future versions of Flash Player and AIR
>> Adobe "plans to maintain support for Flex projects in updates to Flash
>> Builder 4.x"

Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.

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