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From Gordon Smith <>
Subject RE: What would it take to move to Git?
Date Fri, 10 Aug 2012 19:44:43 GMT
Given what Om and Michael say about the tooling, I no longer have any concerns about Git.

- Gordon

-----Original Message-----
From: [] On Behalf Of Om
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: What would it take to move to Git?

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Gordon Smith <> wrote:

> I only know two... I've used Perforce and Subversion for 20 years. For 
> me, the most important thing is ease of use, such as what visual tools 
> it has and how it integrates with IDEs like Eclipse.

Here is a tutorial on getting the Egit plugin to work with Flash Builder [1]

> With Git, can you do an Eclipse refactoring without worrying about 
> which files you need to check out?

Yes, you can.

> Do files have to be checked out at all before being edited?

No.  You can just start editing any file and the plugin is smart enough to figure things out.

> If so, is there an Eclipse plugin to check them out?

See [1]

> How do I see what files I need to submit, and what changes I've made?

In Flash Builder or Eclipse:

Project - right click > Team > Synchronize Workspace.  You can see "incoming", "outgoing"
and "conflicts" (Very similar to the Perforce Eclipse plugin)

> If this is all done on the command line, I have no interest in 
> returning to 1972.
When I started with Git, this is exactly what I thought.  But of late, I have started loving
Git Bash (the command line environment for Git)  But, for almost every feature, the EGit plugin
for Eclipse/Flash Builder has proven to be sufficient.


> I've spent the morning trying to use Git.  I gave up and am now 
> reading the doc, because it is so different from SVN.  I tried a GUI 
> (GitHub for Mac) but it seems tied to GitHub.  I don't know how to 
> redirect it to look at  The GUI loves to show me 
> commit records, but not the files themselves.  So now I am trying to 
> learn the CLI.

Please see [1] and [2].  It has instructions on setting up Git with Flash Builder and on how
to get github projects into FB directly.


 - Gordon
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Omar Gonzalez []
> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 11:55 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: What would it take to move to Git?
> >
> >  I'm guessing we are one of the larger projects at Apache in terms 
> > of code size
> This is precisely why I think we should strongly consider moving to Git.
> I understand the apprehension some may have with learn "Yet Another 
> SCM Control", but really? How many other SCM systems have you used 
> besides SVN and maybe CVS? I'm sure its not all that many. The 
> commands are not that difficult to learn. There's not that many. The 
> concepts are similar, the tools are just better in Git.
> It's also not something that has to prevent work today. Moving to Git 
> would require establishing workflow for how to work with it and 
> documenting it so a transition can be made that doesn't impede 
> everyone's current progress.
> The current Git fork is getting sync'd to our SVN already. I would be 
> willing to take the lead and experiment with the Git repository by 
> making a fork to play around with and define and document in 
> Confluence all of the workflows for moving to it. Once that's done we 
> can figure out when to make the actual move and set a date and make a 
> transition. Work on SVN can continue the whole time.
> -omar

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