Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C878D14D for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 19:25:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 98382 invoked by uid 500); 25 Jul 2012 19:25:45 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 98348 invoked by uid 500); 25 Jul 2012 19:25:45 -0000 Mailing-List: contact flex-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 98340 invoked by uid 99); 25 Jul 2012 19:25:45 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 19:25:45 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [209.85.213.47] (HELO mail-yw0-f47.google.com) (209.85.213.47) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 19:25:38 +0000 Received: by yhjj56 with SMTP id j56so1052648yhj.6 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:25:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-forwarded-message-id:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=jK4OyY6UYk0l2MijHqVUh4WMitsNiR3JoD3hQX9cbpY=; b=f8tOHogemmIArVIbJ+cdHJ9BEpIr444iDMpKNBuz7Ty9DDAO/wXpEhZak03AndCv2W 7mC7vhgv89N4+X74HgsgMZTvnfd8XOEmrc7VxY2h3NTk85+xx1p8Aa4DM5A9ax4h0GBK s10IFa/NmE+x619RWDJiFs33JVfSybs8v5LUELmpYohiD3f+OfacvM68gTMsT8DdbPGM FS0yrqNwR1PEN7czUQOZO4fqOkUqWj9+3/uJuqz/I1uygDNPyTp22Wdv70j8/RKi7vpY cxm6BF8s0vAU0qQitBY3TmS6ZfZ7hkrbbmYIjkhbYT7z1BsZlIIv9kMqrl7ew/avKRSn vwEA== Received: by 10.66.84.137 with SMTP id z9mr4831093pay.18.1343244317185; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (c-71-198-21-248.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. [71.198.21.248]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id kh1sm14906922pbc.23.2012.07.25.12.25.15 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5010481A.20304@spoon.as> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:25:14 -0700 From: Keith Sutton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: [ROADMAP] What is next? References: In-Reply-To: X-Forwarded-Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010805080503020402050604" X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnbpQYY0443aJMviYR0d96bucKK3TBJ79nyPF3pCKsQOXCyjEU+zR3Ez3h/dxFQcTUINkMc X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --------------010805080503020402050604 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit With the successful release of 4.8.0-incubating it would be timely to have a discussion/consensus around the priorities going forward. A couple of fundamental factors should be considered in this discussion: 1) Adobe resources are not indefinite and from statements made early in the year it is possible they may no longer be available within 6+/- months (plan for the worst case). Once these resources are gone it will be significantly harder to access/transition code assets; 2) Successful open source projects/communities are commercially viable, as much as open source is about cool technologies and code it is also about having the resources to do what they want for as long as they want; 3) Within the Fortune 1000 companies which has the greater installed base and therefore need for support/transition - Flex 3; 4) This is not a typical open source project that grows over time, this is a commercially viable product with a significant customer base and ecosystem, Apache Flex does not have the luxury of time as organizations wrestle with the decisions in the 6-12 months over Flex versus HTML5/JS/CSS (hope is not a roadmap). After gleaning through emails and blog posts the following is a list of potential things-to-do-next (please identify anything needing addition/deletion). When considering what is a priority, ask yourself 'is this essential to Apache Flex success beyond the next 6-12 months': 1) 4.6 ViewStack 2) 4.6 Accordion 3) 4.6 DateField 4) 4.6 DataChooser 5) 4.6 Enhanced DataGrid 6) 4.6 missing automation libraries 7) 4.6 missing fabridge 8) 4.6 missing flash-integration 9) 4.6 missing samples 10) 4.6 missing embedded font support 11) 3.x Flex SDK 12) Flex compiler source code 13) BlazeDS/BlazeDS.NET 14) TLF 15) Gravity 16) FXG 17) Squiggles 18) OSMF Notes: Falcon and Falcon JS are not on the list until Q4 2012 and beyond Adobe "Not be contributing the AIR for Linux SDK, LCDS, or LCCS to Apache" Adobe "will ensure that the Adobe Flex SDK 4.6 and prior will be supported in future versions of Flash Player and AIR Adobe "plans to maintain support for Flex projects in updates to Flash Builder 4.x" --------------010805080503020402050604--