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From jude <>
Subject Re: Painful story...
Date Sun, 17 Jun 2012 00:50:56 GMT
You can't tell stories at work? I think some of us would say it is related.
It's motivation. And with all the delays it can be easy to forget why we're
all here.

Besides that, it's interesting. I like these discussions because it shows
the pros and cons of what's out there and what we can learn from it.

Yes, there's another discussion list, good point, but it's this list that
needs the inspiration. My 2 cents

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Jeffry Houser <>wrote:

> On 6/15/2012 2:28 PM, Doug McCune wrote:
>> I agree there is benefit to debating various options and alternatives.  I
>>> disagree that this list is the place for such discussions, as such
>>> discussions are unrelated to the development of the Flex SDK.
>>>  I guess my concern is that the people contributing to the Flex SDK will
>> essentially put heir head in the sand when it comes to alternative tech.
>  Looking at the list of Flex Contributors / PPMC Members; I do not think
> that is a concern worthy of your time.  I'd consider many of them as
> technologists who have a strong breadth of experience well beyond Flex.
>  Additionally, I think the core SDK
>> contributors should consider it part of their "job" to educate the wider
>> community and be able to intelligently articulate the pros and cons of
>> Flex
>> (layout being one of those items), which inherently requires an
>> understanding of the alternatives to Flex.
>  My "Job" is to run a business that builds custom software for varying
> clients.
>  My participation in Apache Flex is only tangentially related to my job.
>  It is, in essence, something I do in my spare time.  With a few
> exceptions, I do not believe I am unique in that.
>  I do not want to spend that "Spare" time educating people on the pros and
> cons of Flex.  If others do; more power to them.
>  As another semi-unrelated example, which I think is very appropriate for
>> this list: Apple just announced a new layout model and list collection
>> stuff in iOS 6. From what I understand, this is *very* much like using
>> DataGroup and item renderers in Flex. It supports virtualized elements,
>> custom layouts, etc. The way in which this is implemented should be
>> well-understood by anyone working on the Flex SDK. I'd hope that this
>> forum
>> would be a good place to have that discussion.
>  If you want to compare contract the iOS 6 approach with the Flex
> approach; with the intent of modifying the Flex SDK in some manner; then
> I'm all for it.  If you want to dissect the iOS 6 approach just for the
> sake of learning or understanding; this list is not the place for it.  If
> you want to do a compare/contract of iOS 6 approach and the Flex approach
> just for the fun of it; this list isn't the place for it.
>  But
>> I really want to avoid any kind of blanket "this topic is inappropriate
>> for
>> this forum" response unless the topic *really* is inappropriate.
>  Well, as this is a moderate-to-high traffic list; I do want it to not
> become a general purpose purpose list.
>  If it doesn't relate to development of the Apache Flex SDK; take it
> elsewhere.
>  There is a user list, which I presume, will be a bit more liberal in it's
> focus.
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