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From Randy Troppmann <>
Subject Re: Painful story...
Date Sat, 16 Jun 2012 21:25:36 GMT
+1 (non-binding) Doug

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Doug McCune <> wrote:
>> I agree there is benefit to debating various options and alternatives.  I
>> disagree that this list is the place for such discussions, as such
>> discussions are unrelated to the development of the Flex SDK.
> I guess my concern is that the people contributing to the Flex SDK will
> essentially put heir head in the sand when it comes to alternative tech. So
> in this case, the topic was about the difficulty doing relatively simple
> box layout with HTML vs Flex.  If anyone is going to try to do any kind of
> Flex -> HTML cross-compilation thing then an understanding of the
> differences and alternative frameworks (like Blueprint, which was brought
> up in the thread) is good to have. Additionally, I think the core SDK
> contributors should consider it part of their "job" to educate the wider
> community and be able to intelligently articulate the pros and cons of Flex
> (layout being one of those items), which inherently requires an
> understanding of the alternatives to Flex.
> As another semi-unrelated example, which I think is very appropriate for
> this list: Apple just announced a new layout model and list collection
> stuff in iOS 6. From what I understand, this is *very* much like using
> DataGroup and item renderers in Flex. It supports virtualized elements,
> custom layouts, etc. The way in which this is implemented should be
> well-understood by anyone working on the Flex SDK. I'd hope that this forum
> would be a good place to have that discussion.
> So sure, the original post may have been a bit too much "rant about HTML"
> and not enough about the "why" of why that's important to this project. But
> I really want to avoid any kind of blanket "this topic is inappropriate for
> this forum" response unless the topic *really* is inappropriate. A
> discussion (even a rant) about HTML's shortcomings compared to Flex passes
> my test for appropriateness, and based on others' responses here I think
> we've seen it passes others' test as well, so I'd just suggest we don't get
> too trigger-happy with the "take that topic elsewhere" type of reactions,
> otherwise people who want to bring up important topics (like my example of
> how Apple is doing layouts in iOS 6) will feel unwelcome in this forum.

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