From flex-dev-return-7059-apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Tue Apr 3 08:08:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F125C975C for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:08:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21600 invoked by uid 500); 3 Apr 2012 08:08:06 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 21514 invoked by uid 500); 3 Apr 2012 08:08:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact flex-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 21481 invoked by uid 99); 3 Apr 2012 08:08:05 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 08:08:05 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of olegsivokon@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.210.175] (HELO mail-iy0-f175.google.com) (209.85.210.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 08:07:59 +0000 Received: by iaag37 with SMTP id g37so5388677iaa.6 for ; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 01:07:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=5ZULQrNWroza8eXhZnkXrTTl+6Q9Nq4jJRcGoWYb2fY=; b=nLFwsEDwWFSE5QbG7ID936LmtuYi383qR4kNiia+CIxvGz3dU9/l855I7i5dL7mvA2 6pLZLgAvZR5dpFGWcWy4cCOPvGqY0QG311BkFrzQBgcbDGgjfD+cxkdH0+ViYsCj6hqv dA1h6SP+5JlF7s/5GxoRu+oSAmUiMgycqu89a3n/GW79YhzKwV/osU551PpmqzLidQwe H5/8hfNoc6yr2qAEbzm4fCii2gIUZr5I7B4CLVLwVz4bCoeskbzSywuxNZ+3e8tYIG49 vmDlHXR01eLctD/GwqrGWq22qbwav1DNvFONfG3POLtCBuzDNKbzYS7CQeBDj7WmnnDR 6K5w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.45.167 with SMTP id o7mr9359991igm.22.1333440458769; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 01:07:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.43.124.200 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 01:07:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <77D94911-29F9-4CD5-8E07-55994922F806@classsoftware.com> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 04:07:38 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: compiler files in pending svn load are in my whiteboard area From: Left Right To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9340f83dfc39504bcc1cc39 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --14dae9340f83dfc39504bcc1cc39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Oh, come on, seriously... there are people doing (or wanting to do) a Maven build - let them staff their build with gigabytes of nonsense, please, don't do it in the basic setup... Remember an old man who liked to shave so much he was known for his razor? What's redundant is wrong. This particular contrib lib is redundant. Again, why not use contrib libraries (I insist on the plural, not only this particular one). - Most of them can be replaced with more or less effort by using what's already in Ant. - They are the code not under our control. If they break something, or decide to make other dependencies and so on - we get punished for it. - They just take up disc space, download time, traffic when downloaded etc. - They require additional work to set up. I have a grave concern you can't "install" the library and run it in the same build (I'm not sure here, would like to be wrong on this one), yet if it is possible, then the installation is going to be complicated, as of now, it will probably double the code used for downloading things, and yet this particular library is needed in the task that downloads things - so if you want to use it, you will need the downloading functionality written twice, first time w/o using the library, second time using it - how does this make sense to anyone? This is like hoarding... there's this kind of programmers who staff their projects with a bunch of little shiny objects and photographs of furry animals because they can, not because they have to. Why want you do it? Best. Oleg --14dae9340f83dfc39504bcc1cc39--