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Subject: Re: LCCS discontinued - infamous decision for Adobe clients
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@All
If Adobe is able to open source (at least a part of) LCCS lib like for 
example the client side AS3 components and the FMS server side code
Is it a stupid idea to propose to add it to the apache flex? Maybe we 
could replace the FMS server side dependency with a blazeDS based server 
side (dont know at all if it makes sense)
and thus combining LCCS client side AS3 components (open source by 
Adobe, dont think theres third party license issue for that part) with 
blazeDS server side, we could get powerfull real time features all 
opensourced in Apache. and no matter what happens to FMS in the future.
Maybe im dreaming a bit, but what you thing of it?

for example will blazeDS be donated to apache as a separated project or 
will it be included in Apache flex?
because smaller project like this may not get a big enough community to 
be a full standalone apache project, but if its included in flex 
powerfull community it will help.

@Giorgo
sounds interresting but:
What is your already complete solution?
Where can we find infos about it?
What server side technology is it based on? FMS?

@Jitendra Jain
Can you please provide the quote and source of such announcement?
On my side i read that they will shut the service down december 31st, 
even for existing clients.
And the third party license issues are expressed only as an issue about 
the option to open source LCCS, not as a reason to stop LCCS service.

@gabriel
Yes i already checked it. But tanks.
I already sent an email to Jeff Stanier and am waiting for answer.
The quote you provide is great but its not reassuring at all.
Thing is they announce they will shutt all down with a fixed date, and 
then they try to find a smooth transition solution (which will take time 
to set up).
A real professionnal timeline would be more to first search for a smooth 
transition, then announce the shut down date with the proper path to 
continue business for existing clients.
After such a quote what should be my next move? Should i wait Adobe and 
Jeff to find a smooth solution but without knowing when this solution 
will be available, and even not knowing if it will never be available?
During that wait the clock is ticking and theres only 9 month to set up 
a solution.
Or should i start to take a lot of unpaid time to search and test any 
other alternative, to finally see Adobe coming with a convenient smooth 
solution 3 month later?

@jain saurabh
Red5 or wowza or other are more low level solutions, and before getting 
a perfectly working solution to replace high level components of LCCS it 
will take a lot of work only to get things work as before.

Thanks All for you replies

Le 30/03/2012 14:55, Jitendra Jain a �crit :
> Adobe has already said that it is going to support already existing clients
> even after discontinuing. Moreover this decision, which they have taken is
> because of third party license issues.  It sounds more valid to me.
>
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Gabriel De Repentigny<
> gabriel.derepentigny@bisonline.com>  wrote:
>
>>> What shoudl i do now when im a freelance and my clients app will stop
>>> running at the end of the year, and have no clear alternative?
>> If you haven't seen it already, you may want to check the LCCS forum at
>> Adobe. There are several threads where people are discussing LCCS
>> alternatives and how to transition to them.
>>
>> Also, Jeff Stanier from Adobe has a thread on that topic here:
>>
>> http://forums.adobe.com/message/4277140
>>
>> He even gives out his email address in case you want to contact him
>> directly and discuss your concerns (though I've no idea if that'll do any
>> good). Perhaps the most encouraging part of the thread is where he says:
>>
>> "I hear you and Adobe hears you and we are taking a look at some other
>> possible options to ease your transition from LCCS. This research will take
>> some time but we will work as quickly as possible."
>>
>> For your sake, hopefully that means they'll find a way to either transfer
>> most of the LCCS technology to someone else to run it or else donate it to
>> the community.
>>
>
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