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From saurabh jain <jainsaurab...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: LCCS discontinued - infamous decision for Adobe clients
Date Fri, 30 Mar 2012 12:30:58 GMT
Even Red5 is a good option to consider while using streaming videos/rtmp
connections.

-Saurabh

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 5:58 PM, filippo dipisa <filippo@dipisa.net> wrote:

> My perception of Adobe is exaclty the same as yours.
> I suggest you to move out from all their products as soon as you can.
> They never had something working properly and they keep killing
> technologies as they need.
> Even the new FlashBuilder 4.6 is complaining is you created project using
> the 4.5 version....
> For streaming video I suggest Wowza.
> For messaging have a look to the goolebuffer.
> For Flex help the apache comunity to keep it alive :)
>
>
> On 30 March 2012 12:53, s├ębastien Paturel <sebpatu.flex@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi.
> > Did some of you saw the Adobe announcement of discontinuing LCCS service?
> > it's SaS with built in complex real time features (video conferences,
> real
> > time messaging and events, screensharing, based on a clustered
> architecture
> > giving a convenient  pay per use offering without you needing to take the
> > server side in charge) and they will simply shut it down at the end of
> the
> > year, giving only 9 month to find an alternative which does not exists
> yet,
> > and whithout giving any starting point solution. And they already
> > disallowed the creation of new accounts after the decision, making any
> new
> > project based on this solution born dead.
> > Its not only a decision to stop further developement (it was not a beta
> > version by the way).
> > Its not only that we have to use previous build to continue business (as
> > it is the case for FLash builder Design view or flash catalyst), its that
> > the product will simply stop functionning letting businesses running on
> it
> > simply stop!
> >
> > What shoudl i do now when im a freelance and my clients app will stop
> > running at the end of the year, and have no clear alternative?
> >
> > After all those bad communication from Adobe, now its a very bad decision
> > leaving customers with only rope to hang out. (please Hobby one Adobe you
> > are my only rope)
> >
> > Is there any other flex dev in the list in the same situation than me?
> > Adobe's people from the list, how do you comment such a move?
> > Will they stop FMS tomorrow?
> >
> > Bad communication si one thing, but shutting a service without
> > alternative, making clients facing business death, is another.
> > Even after all previous bad events, i still gave enough trust into Adobe,
> > now after this LCCS case, its totally gone for me!
> > How can we trust Adobe in any declaration now?
> > How could i choose any Adobe product after such a "we don't care of our
> > clients even if our decision kill them" move?
> > How is it possible that Adobe did not learn a bit after the catastrophy
> of
> > last episodes? So whats next??
> > How can we trust Adobe when they say that they believe in Flash player,
> > Air, and Flex for the 5 or 10 next years to come at least, when they kill
> > their great Flash based technology today?
> >
> > Its important for Apache flex because:
> > - LCCS was a great third party lib for flex to very easily make real time
> > functionnalities with a very clear pricing system. I think that real time
> > was a big point for flex against HTML5 today.
> > - If Adobe is capable of such a bad decision putting clients in such a
> > catastrophic situation, how can we trust Adobe for flex's runtime future,
> > especially Air which need further updates, support new future platforms
> etc?
> > - It makes the HTML5 cross compilation a priority more than ever. (by the
> > way, any news about Adobe letting community to have a look at the code of
> > Falcon and FalconJS before donating it?)
> > - It adds (AGAIN!) a very bad trust image for freelances and agencies
> > clients against Adobe's technology and flex, making even more difficult
> to
> > support the choice against HTML5.
> > If a client know that their business live is at stake by choosing Adobe's
> > solution (or based on it) the choice will be quite easy!
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
>

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