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From Williams Farias <will.far...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Halo x Spark
Date Sat, 24 Mar 2012 04:21:56 GMT
Ok, so please show me a great example with Spark skinning, with really
custom components... and of course, with source code... like that:
http://fleksray.org/skins/scribble/Scribble.html

If you see the source code, you´ll se the simplicity, its ridiculous, just
CSS and images.

Its not about what the technology can do... its about who will use it and
whith what ammount of work? Man, developers usually dont do design... they
only code the things... acess databases and so on. Spark components dont
have so much impressive skinning examples, in my point of view, because of
that: designers where excluded from skinning components! So, if only
hardcode developders can do it... what meters if it´s the best whay? if
nobody will use it... I what just to see an exemple, with source code with
a great custom skin...

If you have, please show me.


2012/3/23 superabe superabe <superabe@gmail.com>

> I disagree. I think Spark skinning was the best thing to happen to Flex.
> It makes it possible to do some insanely custom skins that I would have
> shuddered to think about attempting to do with Halo
>
> Yes it makes it harder to simply style based skinning initially, but if you
> use that a lot, its possible to build that style support in in your core
> component class, once and then reuse.
> It's a tradeoff that I am completely happy to make.
>
> One important piece to skinning in Spark is to understand the Catalyst
> workflow.
> I realize the product itself is discontinued, but even at the state its in,
> it great for taking assets from designers and generating FXG graphics or
> even mxml skin code, that you can then use in your Flex app.
>
> superabe
>
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Richard Oren <roren007@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I am not sure what you were trying to do... but with a little bit of
> > research you should have been able to still use Flex 4 for your project.
> > There is a learning curve to get behind the concept so I have felt your
> > pain before but if you stick with it it does get somewhat easier. I have
> > had to resort back to OLD school ways and Draw a lot of graphical stuff
> for
> > Mobile Development with the Drawing API, but for desktop stuff you should
> > be able to go with MXML.
> >
> >
> >
> http://blog.flexexamples.com/2009/11/04/setting-a-custom-horizontal-scroll-bar-skin-on-a-spark-list-control-in-flex-4/
> >
> > Hang in there! You can Do it! :)
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Cortlandt Winters <cort@cortwinters.net
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Will,
> > >
> > > I do have a prediction. And it's not a dire one.
> > >
> > > It's true what  you say, but though this is an area that the flex
> > > components most need some TLC in, I'm confident that it's the one area
> > that
> > > it's most likely to get it.
> > >
> > > As for predictions, I predict that Adobe will do what it said it will
> do
> > > and it will leave Flex "5?" in a pretty stable state. It will take some
> > > time for folk to get familiar with the apache process and the framework
> > and
> > > to determine how to deal with scrolling on mobile apps that have a
> whole
> > > new level of performance requirement, but that there are going to be
> > plenty
> > > of opportunities to make both web based apps easy to skin and mobile
> ones
> > > performant.
> > >
> > > The toughest part about taking flex and making it open source is that
> > most
> > > flex users are not component developers, they are end user app
> > developers,
> > > but as far as folk that are comfortable with styling and skinning there
> > > should be a lot of easily available expertise to create a good system.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Williams Farias <
> will.farias@gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Greatings everyone,
> > > >
> > > > I´d like to know why does Spark skining is so dificult to get a
> simple
> > > > result.
> > > >
> > > > I´m building now a web application and I need just to skin the
> > ScrollBar.
> > > > Ok, in Flex3 i just open my Flash CS5, create a new Symbol and
> "Export
> > > for
> > > > actionscript". Then i just add 4 new lines in my CSS style code, and
> > its
> > > > done. I have now a simple and 2 minuts made scrollbar.
> > > >
> > > > But in Spark component... ohhh, what a brutal work i´d had to take...
> > > > create a new Style... and put everything on the code... ohhh man,
> > thats a
> > > > really waste of time with hundreds of codes lines and without a
> design
> > > > interface to see how it looks like... in my opinion its too much work
> > for
> > > > such a little result!
> > > >
> > > > Just because of that scrollbar man, i had to decide to use Flex 3
> > insted
> > > of
> > > > 4!!! A simple and  mediocre scrollbar skin!
> > > >
> > > > I was wondering: how can the most simple thing to do in Flex could be
> > > > transformed in a bunch of lines and hard work as that scrolllBar
> skin?
> > > >
> > > > If i could propose something to chance in the next releases of Flex,
> > is a
> > > > mix of Halo and Spark Skins. I think that Flex3 skinning is much more
> > > > simple and intelligent to do.
> > > >
> > > > Antoher thing that frightened me was to read that Adobe will not
> update
> > > > more the Design View of Flash Builder! Does Apacge group have any
> > > > prediction about this?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Williams Farias
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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