Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D9EE3924A for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2012 18:25:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 29470 invoked by uid 500); 9 Feb 2012 18:25:39 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 29401 invoked by uid 500); 9 Feb 2012 18:25:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact flex-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 29393 invoked by uid 99); 9 Feb 2012 18:25:38 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:25:38 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [66.167.159.180] (HELO mail.digitalprimates.net) (66.167.159.180) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:25:29 +0000 Received: from DPSBS1.digitalprimates.local ([fe80::5823:d1b4:86c2:3ad0]) by DPSBS1.digitalprimates.local ([fe80::5823:d1b4:86c2:3ad0%22]) with mapi id 14.01.0289.001; Thu, 9 Feb 2012 12:26:06 -0600 From: "Michael A. Labriola" To: "flex-dev@incubator.apache.org" Subject: RE: Starting with the Whiteboard Code Thread-Topic: Starting with the Whiteboard Code Thread-Index: AQHM46gD0bOmdzfBZ06thj2tHUNCLJYt7ysAgAAB2YCAALl3gIAAIRYAgAAigoCAAQYMgP//404wgACvMYCAAAnbgIAAHpiAgAAEsAD//+N/QIAAhK8AgAAiVgCAAEZLoIAAE/GHgAAPBFCAAN7arYAAjwyggAD25fyAANniQA== Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 18:26:06 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [12.249.100.162] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org >>Hmm. IMHO, Spark was evolutionary which I think became its biggest ball-= and-chain. And when I was working on my "carve up UIComponent" >>prototype, it was impossible to stay in sync with the rest of the team ma= king changes in lines of code that were moving to other files. IMO, spark was a problem because it was forced to be evolutionary. I was in= volved in the beginning of those decisions. I would have preferred spark be= a complete rewrite based on a new ideas as well. Unfortunately with the st= affing that was being allocated, the timeline to do so was prohibitive. I f= ear the same thing here.=20 Changes that make it better in a month are interesting. Changes that solve = real pain points that enterprises have today with using Flex might keep the= m on this framework and stop them from switching away... which is what ever= y major enterprise is weighing today for new development. A theoretical rew= rite that might make things better in the future requires 2 things: hope an= d faith. Adobe effectively abolished both of those qualities over the last = few months.=20 I know we don't see things the same way, but a really great framework that = runs on Flash Player 1 or 2 years from today is totally useless to me. None= of my clients will care or notice because they won't be using this technol= ogy. My hope is that we can make changes that make the 2 year time frame ma= tter. Mike