for a better initial ranking. BTW - I will be in Vienna next week if you want to grab a beer to discuss? Duane ________________________________________ =DCberity.com President & COO Adobe LiveCycle ES Consultant Services http://www.uberity.com Blog | http://technoracle.blogspot.com Twitter | @Uberity @duanechaos On 12-02-27 11:46 AM, "Martin Heidegger" <mh@leichtgewicht.at> wrote: >Hello Duane, > >I used to develop my "all flash" homepages in a way that I represented >all the data structure I accessed as HTML pages. >So I got all indexable content out with regular lists and content first. >Then I started with the Flash Homepage and built it >entirely on the content of the container homepage: Every Data "resource" >that I took I pulled of the same underlying system >including the html code. If I wanted a new "content" I had to add that >service to the html page. Then I looked that the links worked: So If you >browsed down to apage/acontent then it send the browser (with flash) to >a the index page with that url in the background: >mypage.com/#apage/acontent And the page used this as starting point. > >At the end of the day I had all index-able content available as HTML and >all visible content in the Flash. I used same mechanisms >parallel for ajax homepages and it worked out quite well. > >Do you think a discussion about a examples or a development model in >this direction would be reasonable? > >yours >Martin. > > >On 28/02/2012 04:20, Duane Nickull wrote: >> It used to. To understand how the system works, watch this video: >> >>=20 >>http://technoracle.blogspot.com/2009/01/flash-search-engine-optimization. >>ht >> ml >> >> And this video: >> >>=20 >>http://tv.adobe.com/watch/adobe-evangelists-duane-nickull/seo-secrets-tec >>hn >> ology-and-magic-behind-flash/ >> >> >> The second one is more important and it start around the 6 minute mark >> (not sure why Adobe never trimmed it). >> >> I honestly think that after watching these, you will all agree there is >> nothing that belongs on an SDK discussion list WRT SEO. It is simply >>not >> needed. >> >> Duane >> >> ________________________________________ >> >> =DCberity.com >> President& COO >> Adobe LiveCycle ES Consultant Services >> http://www.uberity.com >> Blog | http://technoracle.blogspot.com >> Twitter | @Uberity @duanechaos >> >> >> >> >> >> On 12-02-27 10:57 AM, "Omar Gonzalez"<omarg.developer@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Left Right<olegsivokon@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> ... and white >>>> text on white background with postion: absolute top -1000px has a >>>>better >>>> chance to affect the crawler than that thing does... >>>> >>> That also has a high chance of getting you blacklisted off of search >>> engines. I wouldn't recommend anyone to do this. >>> >>> -- >>> Omar Gonzalez >>> s9tpepper@apache.org >>> Apache Flex PPMC Member >> >> >> >

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[24.84.47.86]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b4sm13568454pbc.7.2012.02.27.12.32.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:32:10 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.14.0.111121 Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:32:05 -0800 Subject: Re: SEO for SWF Was: Flash Platform roadmap From: Duane Nickull To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: SEO for SWF Was: Flash Platform roadmap In-Reply-To: <4F4BDDB3.1030802@leichtgewicht.at> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQneIDgjv7cHr9TDuxwW4OApS+XuWMWJ8kMurYw6jpjtpwiGx6VHS1nLy3G++ZJL8xsBTc52 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org It is a very valuable discussion to have. I am just not sure if it belongs in the Compiler list. FWIW - I used XHTML data providers. Having the keyword in for a better initial ranking. BTW - I will be in Vienna next week if you want to grab a beer to discuss? Duane ________________________________________ =DCberity.com President & COO Adobe LiveCycle ES Consultant Services http://www.uberity.com Blog | http://technoracle.blogspot.com Twitter | @Uberity @duanechaos On 12-02-27 11:46 AM, "Martin Heidegger" <mh@leichtgewicht.at> wrote: >Hello Duane, > >I used to develop my "all flash" homepages in a way that I represented >all the data structure I accessed as HTML pages. >So I got all indexable content out with regular lists and content first. >Then I started with the Flash Homepage and built it >entirely on the content of the container homepage: Every Data "resource" >that I took I pulled of the same underlying system >including the html code. If I wanted a new "content" I had to add that >service to the html page. Then I looked that the links worked: So If you >browsed down to apage/acontent then it send the browser (with flash) to >a the index page with that url in the background: >mypage.com/#apage/acontent And the page used this as starting point. > >At the end of the day I had all index-able content available as HTML and >all visible content in the Flash. I used same mechanisms >parallel for ajax homepages and it worked out quite well. > >Do you think a discussion about a examples or a development model in >this direction would be reasonable? > >yours >Martin. > > >On 28/02/2012 04:20, Duane Nickull wrote: >> It used to. To understand how the system works, watch this video: >> >>=20 >>http://technoracle.blogspot.com/2009/01/flash-search-engine-optimization. >>ht >> ml >> >> And this video: >> >>=20 >>http://tv.adobe.com/watch/adobe-evangelists-duane-nickull/seo-secrets-tec >>hn >> ology-and-magic-behind-flash/ >> >> >> The second one is more important and it start around the 6 minute mark >> (not sure why Adobe never trimmed it). >> >> I honestly think that after watching these, you will all agree there is >> nothing that belongs on an SDK discussion list WRT SEO. It is simply >>not >> needed. >> >> Duane >> >> ________________________________________ >> >> =DCberity.com >> President& COO >> Adobe LiveCycle ES Consultant Services >> http://www.uberity.com >> Blog | http://technoracle.blogspot.com >> Twitter | @Uberity @duanechaos >> >> >> >> >> >> On 12-02-27 10:57 AM, "Omar Gonzalez"<omarg.developer@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Left Right<olegsivokon@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> ... and white >>>> text on white background with postion: absolute top -1000px has a >>>>better >>>> chance to affect the crawler than that thing does... >>>> >>> That also has a high chance of getting you blacklisted off of search >>> engines. I wouldn't recommend anyone to do this. >>> >>> -- >>> Omar Gonzalez >>> s9tpepper@apache.org >>> Apache Flex PPMC Member >> >> >> >