Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D43559220 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:08:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 62150 invoked by uid 500); 10 Feb 2012 17:08:04 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 62026 invoked by uid 500); 10 Feb 2012 17:08:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact flex-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 62018 invoked by uid 99); 10 Feb 2012 17:08:03 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:08:03 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [74.125.245.94] (HELO na3sys010aog113.obsmtp.com) (74.125.245.94) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:07:58 +0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f182.google.com ([209.85.212.182]) (using TLSv1) by na3sys010aob113.postini.com ([74.125.244.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKTzVO2UioYC4AmW3nLUuZRUroqA8WnKNt@postini.com; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:07:38 PST Received: by mail-wi0-f182.google.com with SMTP id hn14so3207067wib.13 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:07:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.84.201 with SMTP id b9mr10571692wiz.4.1328893657283; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:07:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.20.139 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:07:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4F353F10.6090700@leichtgewicht.at> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:07:37 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [RT] Awesome FlexNext User Experience (was: Starting with the Whiteboard code) From: JP Bader To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmZWjkzT97qPjkh3tIrLuAZTtHIm0Bo0uGbJura79Vu5rdkdsaL2achnkOseBbgKxGcrhoP Agreed. One of the things we need to also demonstrate is the ease of development concept, something that David pointed out with Sencha, Go and even tryruby.org. An interactive tutorial would be great for getting Apache Flex out to the masses for ease of use, and examples should be focused on current-day use cases. I have tons of examples that are useful in my bookmark bar, and those range from Flash IDE to Flashbuilder IDE, all using actionscript, but not necessarily the same codebase nor framework. Should we suggest a page added to the wiki for creating/displaying/cataloguing these learning experiences? JP On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Greg Lafrance wrote= : > I'd also like to see a showcase of applications developed that not only > inspire developers as to what's possible, but provide useful code either > for developers creating proof or concepts for internal approval or as > starting code for actual projects. > > This would not be a tour de flex, but rather a number of basic applicatio= ns > for various industries. So for example basic apps for: > > - allowing users to manage images they have gathered (possibly an AIR app= ) > - showing financial data for some stocks, with charts based on financial > data > - a shopping cart > - managing one's social networks (Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc) > - mobile AIR apps that offer an appropriate subset of each app > > This would not be done quickly or easily, but if such apps are planned > well, and created, and offered as open source code (with whatever is the > appropriate license), developers from a variety of industries can more > quickly jump into using Flex. > > One thing I was amazed at is that Adobe never (and most tech companies > never do) created such multi-industry sample apps, which over time could > include sample backend code, and become more complex sample apps. > > Not easy, but along with stunningly excellent documentation, can get > developers swarming to Apache Flex. > > BTW, I really love the new logo. Very kool! > Greg > > On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Martin Heidegger wr= ote: > >> Dear List, >> >> it can be hard to find a vision for the next version of Flex. Developers >> like us like discussions about technical details and they are boring. >> >> I think that is not enough! I think we need something that inspires us t= o >> create something new - something that makes us believe that the things >> created with Apache Flex are awesome. >> >> We can make awesome things! >> >> I propose following: Lets ask everyone who listens for user experience >> concepts - full or partial. Things that they could see Flex is going to = so >> the PPMC get a better feeling how awesome they could be. >> >> The proposals should be split in a few categories: >> >> =A0*) _HTML/JS compatible:_ To compile mxmlc/AS3 -> html/js the concept = has >> to work within the restrictions of HTML/JS with a optional royal look an= d >> feel when being built for Flash without breaking the system. >> >> =A0*) _Flash super-powered:_ Systems that leverage the power of the curr= ent >> version of the Flash Player without thinking for a second about HTML: St= age >> 3D / HD videos / JPEG XR / Slick custom fonts / Pixelbender effects / >> (generated audio) / ... >> >> =A0*) _Touch centric:_ Focussing on the fingers: Swipe/Zoom/Rotate/Expan= d/**Swoosh/... >> These concepts don't need to care about a mouse or keyboard. >> >> =A0*) _Fully portable:_ Interfaces flexible enough to be represented in = the >> style of various Operation systems without neglecting our need for style= . >> Awesome on Mac/iOS/Windows/Android with few adaptations. >> >> Some rule-of-thumbs I can think of: >> >> =A0 * Responsiveness is key: The more stuff that has to run at a time th= e >> less likely it will rock. >> =A0 * All assets should be open-source: Don't build on royal fonts or >> imagery. >> >> What would you think of such a request? Is that something that the PPMC >> think is useful? Should we rock that? >> >> Note: The various concepts should be presented in the Wiki. >> >> yours >> Martin. >> >> --=20 JP Bader Principal Zavteq, Inc. @lordB8r | jp@zavteq.com 608.692.2468