Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A2589138 for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2012 02:01:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 44217 invoked by uid 500); 5 Feb 2012 02:01:33 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 44125 invoked by uid 500); 5 Feb 2012 02:01:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact flex-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 44116 invoked by uid 99); 5 Feb 2012 02:01:32 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 05 Feb 2012 02:01:32 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of adobeflexengineer@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.210.175] (HELO mail-iy0-f175.google.com) (209.85.210.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 05 Feb 2012 02:01:26 +0000 Received: by iaby12 with SMTP id y12so7323350iab.6 for ; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 18:01:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LfxCIQEmj7tPlJvK+zS2KNwIZ6zCwPsVnP0qiFscj78=; b=l6eIEiI/cezAy4qT+ebcqbddAzhscc24jCuIKFlIKUuHs0c8Lfs9/i23WzaP3RMV6c u+FYFuj/OMPYaOP/xzWQsPbeZQTa+rWIQVLzq8hdMmSA3DDY1fcDfgHKpuhIPJAhnpVH ebeifudo2BU86zPI287EClyybhcGYyuQOiRdI= Received: by 10.50.155.193 with SMTP id vy1mr15107030igb.14.1328407265173; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 18:01:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.239.130 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Feb 2012 18:00:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Stephane Beladaci Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 21:00:45 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Apache Flex suggestion - dumping SWF support in favor of HTML5 - listen to Steve To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org This post is a brillant example of Apple's brain washing power! If you listen to Steve Jobs then you contribute to the spreading of a disease that will do nothing but cripple the industry. Apple does not push HTML5 because it is better, they push it because it does not exists and can easily be patented and crippled (see W3C public statement saying it is very sad when they have to go after one of their own member for patent abuse, see also HTML5 bugs related to audio / video in Safari marked "not to be fixed" by executive order, that is Apple execs ordering Safari engineers not to fix audio/video bug with HTML5 on Safari to protect iOS. On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Cem Samira wrote: > What use is there in supporting a technical very doubtable SWF format > compared to the JavaScript VM? With Flash being such a CPU hog, we'd all = be > glad to get rid of an outdated technology in favor of the future proof > JavaScript VM. > > As Steve Jobs said: "Sometimes people call us crazy when we get rid of > things like the floppy disk on the original iMac ... But sometimes you ju= st > have to pick the right technology ... Flash is waning ... HTML5 is on the > ascendency". > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DYPb9eRNyIrQ&noredirect=3D1 > > The whole discussion here is centered around proprietary Adobe technology= , > and soon Apache will feel like an extension of the Adobe marketing. > > I don't see any value in Apache becoming involved with an out-dated > technology, and building a large community around a single vendor runtime= . > This project is =A0doomed, when you only focus on releasing another Flex = 4.6+ > version supporting Flash Player. > > So get a team together, and start working on HTML5 support for Flex, > anything else will just bring us more frustration with the A* company. > > - Cem