Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 591CB9905 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:19:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 38330 invoked by uid 500); 22 Feb 2012 14:19:11 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 38301 invoked by uid 500); 22 Feb 2012 14:19:11 -0000 Mailing-List: contact flex-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 38293 invoked by uid 99); 22 Feb 2012 14:19:11 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:19:11 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS,T_FRT_INTEREST X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of jackringg@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.210.175] (HELO mail-iy0-f175.google.com) (209.85.210.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:19:03 +0000 Received: by iaby12 with SMTP id y12so99117iab.6 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:18:42 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jackringg@gmail.com designates 10.42.175.5 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.42.175.5; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jackringg@gmail.com designates 10.42.175.5 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jackringg@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=jackringg@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.42.175.5]) by 10.42.175.5 with SMTP id ay5mr1196881icb.42.1329920322962 (num_hops = 1); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:18:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=iFo5TMcfrp96kbsjnrJTGwoQ0+tJy9OOW+7JxRfi4/8=; b=xOtxLWUx9hnBOj4TmfQAX9mNRrcHxn86UInKWXlzZQYpMsS0+22PpOOysHhyO1E/// lJkBFFH2/q/BnBLlvmYiOKwyJt9Zsb+tX3spXzhvDfLmET3yXSd7NTjq+eGm3Hop/vGZ NkYH/r93VAAk9sAuVzqysuUpLXtGcX1g4bBpc= Received: by 10.42.175.5 with SMTP id ay5mr1013613icb.42.1329920322914; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:18:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([209.166.188.140]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id al9sm13337906igc.5.2012.02.22.06.18.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:18:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Adobe might think of open-sourcing the Design View if there is sufficient interest References: <73EAD4BA8D3A4DBB98C28857CB669C70@KORODESKTOP> From: Jack Ring Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <55884A77-EA27-48F7-B97B-160AE55407E6@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:17:41 -0500 To: "flex-dev@incubator.apache.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org +1 for design view. On Feb 22, 2012, at 9:08 AM, Pepe wrote: > +1 for Design View >=20 > 2012/2/22 Dimitri k. : >> After the discussion on the ML about the Design View, I thought it would b= e >> a good idea to ask Deepa at the Flex Paris meeting if Adobe could conside= r >> to open-source it after the removal from next version of Flash Builder. >> Fr=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric Thomas, also on the ML, was quicker than me and ask De= epa about >> that. >> She said that Adobe hasn't thought about it because they didn't believe w= e >> were interested, but she was thinking it could be a good idea. >> In fact, the Design View is a Flex app, so the community can easily >> contribute to it, and legal scrubbing should not be such a drag. >>=20 >> She concluded that the best thing to make it happen would be to show >> interrest for the open-sourcing of DV on this list. >>=20 >> I know that lots of people don't care about the Design View (I rarely use= it >> myself), but here are 4 reasons I think it could be a good move for Apach= e >> Flex: >>=20 >> - DV is a great tool to understand the MXML paradigm, particularly for >> people coming for a Flash Pro background (timeline+stage), and its remova= l >> would increase the barrier of entry to Flex. >>=20 >> - I heard several times about devs for which the DV is central to their Fl= ex >> workflow. It's often the case for heavy form-based application, where >> standard Flex components are use exclusively and the Design View help >> avoiding "design re-compilation". >> In fact, I was told by an Adobe enterprise evangelist that he sold Flex t= o >> some big companies mainly because of the Design View and the ease they se= e >> in it to train their employees. >>=20 >> - DV can be really helpful when designing Mobile apps, because you can te= st >> quickly your design with different resolutions and orientations >>=20 >> - If we have access to the Design View code, maybe we could improve it in= a >> way that even current Design View haters would use it ;) >>=20 >> Dimitri K.