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From Nicholas Kwiatkowski <nicho...@spoon.as>
Subject Re: Flex -> HTML, Linux and time to say goodbye?
Date Mon, 27 Feb 2012 15:01:42 GMT
Not exactly true.

The RSLs don't get cleared from the Flash Player Cache.  Ever.  Once they
are downloaded and verified, they are there forever.  The signing is baked
into the Flash Player, and is matched with the RSL certificate on the SWZ
files that Adobe signs for us.  For current versions of the Flash Player,
Adobe can't simply break our apps.  Future versions may not honor the
signed RSLs, and force it to be downloaded, once per session, instead of
once per lifetime.

You store the Adobe signed RSLs on your own server, not Adobe's.  This will
not change.

Non-signed RSLs get cached on a per-session basis. They can be cleared.
 Future Apache Flex RSLs will behave in this manner.

-Nick

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Dan Pride <danielpride@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Everything you have written in Flex to date, unless you specifically
> selected to compile the RSL's into your code, could just stop working if
> somebody at adobe got their pants into a twist and pulled the plug on the
> server.
> Your apps would all stop working at once, or the next time your cache
> cleared. Worse, you would not at that point be able to recompile to correct
> the problem.
>
> Dan Pride
>
> --- On Mon, 2/27/12, Jeffry Houser <jeffry@dot-com-it.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Jeffry Houser <jeffry@dot-com-it.com>
> > Subject: Re: Flex -> HTML, Linux and time to say goodbye?
> > To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Date: Monday, February 27, 2012, 9:38 AM
> >
> >   I'm speaking a bit "ignorantly" here.. but...
> >
> >   Really the only RSLs that are "Dead" are the ones
> > signed by Adobe and
> > cached across domains by the Flash Player.  You can
> > still use RSLs on
> > your own domain (and the will even be cached), right?
> >
> >   And even if the Adobe server/cached RSLs are not able
> > to be loaded for
> > whatever reason, won't the Flash Player fall back on the
> > "local" RSLs
> > which we distribute in the same directory of our Flex
> > application?
> >
> >   Or have I greatly misunderstood the technology?
> >
> > On 2/27/2012 9:31 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
> > > RSLs are dead anyway for anything>  Flex
> > 4.6.   I'd start looking around
> > > them today anyway.
> > >
> > > -Nick
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Dan Pride<danielpride@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >>> Because people have no faith in Adobe...
> > >> What scares the bejesus out of me is when I
> > remember what happened to all
> > >>   Flashbuilder beta apps a couple of
> > years back.
> > >>
> > >> Is my phone going to suddenly go nuts with clients
> > who's apps
> > >> simultaneously stopped working cause somebody at
> > adobe to into a twist and
> > >> pulled the server?
> > >>
> > >> Seriously considering avoiding RSL's for the
> > immediate future,,,
> > >>
> > >> Dan Pride
> > >>
> > >> --- On Mon, 2/27/12, Jeffry Houser<jeffry@dot-com-it.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> From: Jeffry Houser<jeffry@dot-com-it.com>
> > >>> Subject: Re: Flex ->  HTML, Linux and
> > time to say goodbye?
> > >>> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > >>> Date: Monday, February 27, 2012, 8:36 AM
> > >>> On 2/27/2012 8:02 AM, David Arno
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>> As I'm sure most of you know, Adobe
> > announced last
> > >>> Wednesday that they were
> > >>>> dumping their support for Flash on Linux.
> > >>>   That is inaccurate.
> > It'll be supported in Chrome; and
> > >>> if other browsers implement the new plugin API;
> > those can be
> > >>> supported to.
> > >>>
> > >>>> For people whose business is
> > >>>> selling Flex apps to Linux users, this is
> > of course
> > >>> very bad news.
> > >>>   Do such people exist?
> > >>>
> > >>>> The future of the Flash player for Windows
> > and Mac
> > >>> seems as assured as
> > >>>> everything can be when dealing with
> > proprietary
> > >>> systems. Likewise with Flex
> > >>>> on AIR for iOS and Android. So what benefit
> > would there
> > >>> be in developing
> > >>>> HTML5 targets for these OS's?
> > >>>   Because people have no faith
> > in Adobe; and want Flex to
> > >>> outlive a dependency on a proprietary runtime.
> > >>>
> > >>> -- Jeffry Houser
> > >>> Technical Entrepreneur
> > >>> 203-379-0773
> > >>> --
> > >>> http://www.flextras.com?c=104
> > >>> UI Flex Components: Tested! Supported! Ready!
> > >>> --
> > >>> http://www.theflexshow.com
> > >>> http://www.jeffryhouser.com
> > >>> http://www.asktheflexpert.com
> > >>> --
> > >>> Part of the DotComIt Brain Trust
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jeffry Houser
> > Technical Entrepreneur
> > 203-379-0773
> > --
> > http://www.flextras.com?c=104
> > UI Flex Components: Tested! Supported! Ready!
> > --
> > http://www.theflexshow.com
> > http://www.jeffryhouser.com
> > http://www.asktheflexpert.com
> > --
> > Part of the DotComIt Brain Trust
> >
> >
>

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