Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D4CB9763 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 14:14:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 79924 invoked by uid 500); 15 Jan 2012 14:14:46 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 79861 invoked by uid 500); 15 Jan 2012 14:14:45 -0000 Mailing-List: contact flex-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 79853 invoked by uid 99); 15 Jan 2012 14:14:45 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 14:14:45 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [209.85.214.47] (HELO mail-bk0-f47.google.com) (209.85.214.47) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 14:14:37 +0000 Received: by bkcjg15 with SMTP id jg15so3357669bkc.6 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 06:14:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.26.67 with SMTP id rl3mr3355537bkb.45.1326636850940; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 06:14:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.114.5 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 06:14:10 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [173.10.39.57] In-Reply-To: <29A64204-0D85-4A77-A09C-0F9A38FA8B8F@gmail.com> References: <7087560d$59c0a553$1e63cc42$@com> <29A64204-0D85-4A77-A09C-0F9A38FA8B8F@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 09:14:10 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Non-core code, contrib and samples (was: Goal for Flex: Strengthening large-scale Flex applications...) From: Nicholas Kwiatkowski To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf301ee8113f0ade04b691b674 --20cf301ee8113f0ade04b691b674 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 5:53 AM, Sebastian Mohr wrote: > For the moment, I doubt that it is time- and cost-effective > build large-scale Flex apps (e.g. more then 250 MXML files) > without the use of third-party Microarchitectures. Therefore, > I would only contribute code which shows the usage with > Microarchitectures. And when a Microarchitecture needs to > be updated then the community needs to take the time to > update their code to the latest Microarchitecture version. > > I've built plenty of 'large enterprise' applications that don't use one of the popular micro-architectures.. They have > 250 files (I don't just count MXML files, as about 3/4 of them are .as files). Most of my enterprise apps (used in mission-critical or daily use by lots of people) don't include more than 200 files -- but that doesn't make them any less enterprise... > If there would be a gathering of another team which could > prove that building large-scale Flex apps is affordable, too, > then, I also would be happy to see their code in the Apache > Flex "samples" folder. > > All of those that you've listed are already open-source, hosted elsewhere. I don't think that is the point of a samples / contrib folder. Providing links to the sites that host them would be a good idea (off the FAQ or Wiki), but I don't see the code being here. Remember, in order to commit code to the SVN, whoever contributes them would need to clear them under the ASF license. I don't think any of those have something compatible with the Apache license (maybe Caringorm may, but we need to wait and see on that). What would be cool to see in the contib/samples folder would be contributed samples of larger applications. Something like Tour de Flex. I'm checking with my clients/employers to see if they would be willing to release the source of any of the apps I've worked with them, but so far the answer has been no. -Nick > > -- Sebastian > > > > On Jan 15, 2012, at 11:29 AM, Peter Elst wrote: > > >> Would there be any legal issues when using > >> third party Opensource libraries in these Apache > >> Flex code examples? > >> > >> Here are some Opensource-Microarchitectures > > > > > > > > Can't speak to any legal issues but personally I'd prefer generic plain > > vanilla Flex code examples rather than examples of various > > microarchitectures, trying to keep those in sync as they change and > ending > > up with more support questions about the third party implementations than > > the actual Flex SDK. > > > > - Peter > > --20cf301ee8113f0ade04b691b674--