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Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 22:30:25 -0500
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Subject: Re: Flex Usage Statistics
From: Nicholas Kwiatkowski <nicholas@spoon.as>
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No problem -- like I said, I know you didn't do it intentionally, but that
is one of the things where people voting for features and collectivally
putting together the surveys would solve.

-Nick

On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Sebastian Mohr <masuland@gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh ... I see!
>
> I thought I caught this case with this answer:
>
> "I have developed my own MVC Microarchitecture(s)"
>
> But you are right ... I should have added this answer, too:
>
> "I don't use the MVC architectural design pattern in my Flex project(s)"
>
> Sorry ... this was my first one shot survey :)
>
>
> - Sebastian
>
>
>
> On Jan 9, 2012, at 2:04 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
>
>  Understood, but the survey is making the grand assumption that /everybody/
>> is using some sort of MVC framework, which was my point.  There is no out
>> on the survey, and some people (like myself) would simply not answer the
>> survey at all.
>>
>> While in the Flex world, there is an overwhelming majority of the people
>> that use MVC style frameworks, that is not the case for 100% of the
>> population.  I personally use an I-O style of programming, which is not
>> really MVC.
>>
>> -Nick
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Sebastian Mohr <masuland@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  @Nick ... Thx for your comment. The intent of Question 2:
>>>
>>> http://code.google.com/p/****masuland/wiki/Statistics#**<http://code.google.com/p/**masuland/wiki/Statistics#**>
>>> Question_2:_Which_Model-View-****Controller_(MVC)_****
>>> Microarchitectures<http://**code.google.com/p/masuland/**
>>> wiki/Statistics#Question_2:_**Which_Model-View-Controller_(**
>>> MVC)_Microarchitectures<http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/Statistics#Question_2:_Which_Model-View-Controller_(MVC)_Microarchitectures>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> ... was definitely not to suggest a specific Microarchitecture. Instead,
>>> it should only show which Microarchitecture has been used more often
>>> in Flex developers past projects. And the result makes sense to me,
>>> because, Cairngorm 2 and PureMVC where the first MVC
>>> Microarchitecture frameworks for Flex.
>>>
>>> It wasn't a "Which Microsarchitecture do you like the most?"
>>> question. But I see your point that this could be misinterpreted
>>> somehow ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 9, 2012, at 12:18 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
>>>
>>> Agreed, 100%.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Surveys outside of that can be swayed to however the creator wants it to
>>>> end up.  For example, with all the people I talk to, Caringorm has been
>>>> barely a blip on anybody's radar for at least two years -- where this
>>>> survey shows a completely different story (and steers people to
>>>> suggested
>>>> use of Caringorm).  I doubt that was the author's intent, but it was
>>>> pretty
>>>> glaring to me.
>>>>
>>>> -Nick
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/8/12 12:58 AM, "Sebastian Mohr" <masuland@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you see the need to make more surveys?
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I would want JIRA to be our constantly running survey.  Folks put in
>>>>> issues,
>>>>> the community votes on it.  Serious discussion should probably happen
>>>>> on
>>>>> the
>>>>> list.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Alex Harui
>>>>> Flex SDK Team
>>>>> Adobe Systems, Inc.
>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>

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