Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DAD81B56A for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2012 20:28:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 81490 invoked by uid 500); 4 Jan 2012 20:28:17 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 81464 invoked by uid 500); 4 Jan 2012 20:28:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact flex-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 81456 invoked by uid 99); 4 Jan 2012 20:28:17 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 20:28:17 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of jonbcampos@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.215.175] (HELO mail-ey0-f175.google.com) (209.85.215.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 20:28:13 +0000 Received: by eaal1 with SMTP id l1so15828009eaa.6 for ; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 12:27:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=oNdVveoGvnfsxOa1nYcJBGfgOaa64qMaMIrLW/VrduY=; b=Y3FJU6sh7AD5YtUYx9iqqr0+EAa6HoPl7fTvboAfSz4N6Nklu6ScDHaHONYSbETzBJ lb9azv23mZ01Uf7ElDNbighXmHSRNPtQfjXly+iUtI16HnS1aIImD8+CauPk4M6zc1xi 6hf3tE8hndE19EwYkGcZIpK0XU5TTRc/nxaTQ= Received: by 10.204.153.28 with SMTP id i28mr7376346bkw.136.1325708872338; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 12:27:52 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.58.199 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Jan 2012 12:27:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Jonathan Campos Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 14:27:31 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Committer duties and information To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175def8a694d4e04b5b9a6b6 --0015175def8a694d4e04b5b9a6b6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I completely agree with Alex. If I made it seem that you had to be part of Spoon or even care about what we care about I miscommunicated. On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > Let's be clear that Spoon's roadmaps and priorities are independent of th= e > Flex project in the Apache incubator. Several committers to Flex are als= o > Spoon members and they will coordinate with each other and hopefully make > major contributions to the Flex project. > > But if you are a committer and you want to check something in, you don't > have to get Spoon involved, just do it. If folks don't like it, it will > get > vetoed. And as I said in my other post, I would discuss major changes on > this list before committing it. > > If you are not yet a committer, wait until we get JIRA up then submit a > patch, get folks to vote for your patch then get a committers attention t= o > review and accept it. > > > On 1/4/12 12:17 PM, "Fr=E9deric Cox" wrote: > > > This makes sense to me if we can also vote on the features of Spoon to > > influence priority > > > > On 04/01/12 21:08, "Jonathan Campos" wrote: > > > >> That is an exact question that I asked at the Flex Summit specifically > for > >> the group. > >> > >> Roy Fielding had a great analogy/answer. > >> The main idea is that this is that we are throwing a party, not runnin= g > a > >> business with free labor. So people need to be energized about what th= ey > >> are doing, they aren't there to be given tasks. > >> > >> As such there is no roadmap. You may come up with a great idea and sta= rt > >> working on it, then when other people see what you are doing they may > >> join. > >> Over time your idea snowballs and gets added in, but this doesn't mean > >> that > >> there is a formal roadmap for people to sit at and program away agains= t. > >> > >> However this is where Spoon comes in. We do have plans and roadmaps of > >> features we want to add. Some take time and require people. If you are > >> interested in our roadmap (our party) you and anyone else is free to > join. > >> > >> Make sense? > >> > >> J > >> > >> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Peter Elst > wrote: > >> > >>> Thats a good point I've not been clear on either - is roadmap discuss= ed > >>> on > >>> the mailinglist and voted on so there's a bit of structure to what ty= pe > >>> of > >>> things get worked on rather than a random collection of bug fixes and > >>> non-related features? > >>> > >>> - Peter > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Jeffry Houser > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Be sure to watch the "What it Means to be an Apache Project" from t= he > >>>> Flex Summit, here: > >>>> > >>>> http://tv.adobe.com/show/flex-**community-summit-december-**2011/< > >>> http://tv.adobe.com/show/flex-community-summit-december-2011/> > >>>> > >>>> My understanding is that we do whatever we want. I don't know how > >>> that > >>>> goes from "chaos" to "release" yet, though. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 1/4/2012 2:12 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hi All, > >>>>> > >>>>> I was just curious if there was any Apache Flex specific informatio= n > >>>>> floating around about how duties might be divided on each others > >>> strength > >>>>> in relation to our understanding of the SDK. > >>>>> > >>>>> I know there is the official committer information page that Alex > >>>>> provided but has there been any discussion on how an initial > >>> committer > >>> can > >>>>> prepare for whats to be expected in the Apache Flex project? > >>>>> > >>>>> Or is this just to soon to ask this question? > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> Mike > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Jeffry Houser > >>>> Technical Entrepreneur > >>>> 203-379-0773 > >>>> -- > >>>> http://www.flextras.com?c=3D104 > >>>> UI Flex Components: Tested! Supported! Ready! > >>>> -- > >>>> http://www.theflexshow.com > >>>> http://www.jeffryhouser.com > >>>> http://www.asktheflexpert.com > >>>> -- > >>>> Part of the DotComIt Brain Trust > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Jonathan Campos > >> Dallas Flex User Group Manager > >> http://www.d-flex.org/ > >> blog: http://www.unitedmindset.com/jonbcampos > >> twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonbcampos > > > > -- > Alex Harui > Flex SDK Team > Adobe Systems, Inc. > http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui > > --=20 Jonathan Campos Dallas Flex User Group Manager http://www.d-flex.org/ blog: http://www.unitedmindset.com/jonbcampos twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonbcampos --0015175def8a694d4e04b5b9a6b6--