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From Wael Jammal <w...@rsnewmedia.co.uk>
Subject Re: Flex Usage Statistics
Date Tue, 10 Jan 2012 18:15:29 GMT
Thanks for the response, it doesn't have to be in the survey but thinking
about it there should be a page added with a list of Frameworks and Blogs
that are actively contributing to Flex. (parsley, rl, bojinx, swizz etc.)
I also 
contribute work towards ND2D and Starling as well as my framework and
would be willing to contribute more if there is a user base. It
would go a long way to keeping the community lively. I believe developers
would be more inclined to continue contributing
third party frameworks and components to the flex framework if they have a
user base. 
Apart from maintaining my framework for current clients I bet I would
loose interest in it if no one used it anymore :(.

Just a suggestion anyway.

Wael

On 10/01/2012 17:35, "Sebastian Mohr" <masuland@gmail.com> wrote:

>@Wael Jammal 
>
>It's great to see your interest adding more
>valueable data to my initialised survey. I could
>reopening this survey within seconds, but, I have
>some concerns that new values would blur the
>correctness of the existing data - because now
>results have been made public ... but if there
>would be the interest to continue this survey
>let me know.
>
>Furthermore, if you are interested to start your
>own survey you can set it up here for free:
>
>http://www.kwiksurveys.com
>
>
>-- Sebastian
>
>
>
>On Jan 9, 2012, at 12:39 PM, Wael Jammal wrote:
>
>> How do you get an entry on that list? I must have missed this. I would
>> like to add my own.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> On 09/01/2012 01:25, "Sebastian Mohr" <masuland@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Oh ... I see!
>>> 
>>> I thought I caught this case with this answer:
>>> 
>>> "I have developed my own MVC Microarchitecture(s)"
>>> 
>>> But you are right ... I should have added this answer, too:
>>> 
>>> "I don't use the MVC architectural design pattern in my Flex
>>>project(s)"
>>> 
>>> Sorry ... this was my first one shot survey :)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Sebastian
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 9, 2012, at 2:04 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Understood, but the survey is making the grand assumption that /
>>>> everybody/
>>>> is using some sort of MVC framework, which was my point.  There is
>>>> no out
>>>> on the survey, and some people (like myself) would simply not answer
>>>> the
>>>> survey at all.
>>>> 
>>>> While in the Flex world, there is an overwhelming majority of the
>>>> people
>>>> that use MVC style frameworks, that is not the case for 100% of the
>>>> population.  I personally use an I-O style of programming, which is
>>>> not
>>>> really MVC.
>>>> 
>>>> -Nick
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Sebastian Mohr <masuland@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> @Nick ... Thx for your comment. The intent of Question 2:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/**masuland/wiki/Statistics#**
>>>>> Question_2:_Which_Model-View-
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>**Controller_(MVC)_**Microarchitectures<http://code.google.com/p/masul
>>>>>an
>>>>> 
>>>>>d/wiki/Statistics#Question_2:_Which_Model-View-Controller_(MVC)_Microa
>>>>>rc
>>>>> hitectures 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ... was definitely not to suggest a specific Microarchitecture.
>>>>> Instead,
>>>>> it should only show which Microarchitecture has been used more often
>>>>> in Flex developers past projects. And the result makes sense to me,
>>>>> because, Cairngorm 2 and PureMVC where the first MVC
>>>>> Microarchitecture frameworks for Flex.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It wasn't a "Which Microsarchitecture do you like the most?"
>>>>> question. But I see your point that this could be misinterpreted
>>>>> somehow ;)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 9, 2012, at 12:18 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Agreed, 100%.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Surveys outside of that can be swayed to however the creator wants
>>>>>> it to
>>>>>> end up.  For example, with all the people I talk to, Caringorm has
>>>>>> been
>>>>>> barely a blip on anybody's radar for at least two years -- where
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> survey shows a completely different story (and steers people to
>>>>>> suggested
>>>>>> use of Caringorm).  I doubt that was the author's intent, but it
was
>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>> glaring to me.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Nick
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 1/8/12 12:58 AM, "Sebastian Mohr" <masuland@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Do you see the need to make more surveys?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I would want JIRA to be our constantly running survey.  Folks
put
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> issues,
>>>>>>> the community votes on it.  Serious discussion should probably
>>>>>>> happen on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Alex Harui
>>>>>>> Flex SDK Team
>>>>>>> Adobe Systems, Inc.
>>>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 




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