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From Nicholas Kwiatkowski <>
Subject Re: Spoon Community Call Feb 2nd
Date Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:04:41 GMT
Just a little background -- there is a lot that goes into setting all this
stuff up -- essentially, we were very far down the road of setting up the
same infrastructure that Apache is now providing us when Adobe made their
announcements.  In short, it blind-sided us.  We had to sit back, look what
was happening (and how everything was changing minute-by-minute) and decide
where our role would best fit.  Our conference call on the 2nd will help
clarify all of this.

Basically, Apache is doing the code stuff -- stuff it does really well.
 But there is a LOT more to the Flex eco-system that currently has a huge
void to fill.  These are all the functions that Adobe filled previously.
 While before we were all about making the SDK public and open-source, we
will now be focusing on community engagement and community support.
 Changing our role to that methodology is taking some time with our limited
volunteer resources.

We don't want to sound secretive, but with the landscape (and Adobe's
team/leagal/evangelism) changing what is and isn't happening on a
day-by-day basis, we didn't want to make any large proclamations or invite
the community into a project that would be dead from the start.  Having
things well organized and well planned was our goal -- so that the
ecosystem and customers on the edge could rely on the info we gave them.


On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Peter Elst <> wrote:

> > I know the Spoon guys have stated on several occasions that its all open
> > etc... but really, its not. The "monthly" newsletter was sent in
> November,
> > its been 2, going on 3, months since the "monthly". No one really knows
> > what the agenda is except for the core officers, and it just feels like
> > there's a bunch of things going on over there that should be happening on
> > this list as opposed to some secret hiding place where only but a few can
> > listen in.
> I've been holding back getting into this discussion but to be frank I feel
> the same - I know Spoon will be playing by the Apache rules and won't do
> anything intentionally to hurt the community. There is something about the
> semi-open approach and a limited group of people driving the agenda that I
> find a bit worrying.
> Would it be possible to have Spoon use Apache infrastructure like a section
> on the wiki for example to document what is going on and let people
> contribute?
> I'm a bit worried Spoon would become synonymous with Apache Flex for the
> wider community. There are some high profile Flex developers that will no
> doubt make incredibly valuable contributions but would not like to see them
> becoming the de facto decision makers.
> Spoon is probably also getting settled in and getting used to the new
> situation of Flex at Apache so don't want to hold this against them, just
> make sure the relationship is clear for everyone involved.
> - Peter

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