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From Alex Hugh <alex.hug...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: logo contest closed
Date Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:55:15 GMT
Sorry, I mean "unnecessary issues".

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:54 AM, Alex Hugh <alex.hugh35@gmail.com> wrote:

> I see, it would be wise to avoid public/community votes since there might
> be sort of prejudice
> or discrimination which will caused necessary. Let PPMC members and the
> designers make
> their best decisions with years of experience.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:50 AM, Fr├ęderic Cox <frederic@exuvis.com> wrote:
>
>> As I understand it the PPMC members will vote. All we can do is vote so
>> they can look at the community votes which are non-binding and influence
>> their opinion that way. You can involve all the designers in the world to
>> vote (or all of Adobe's designers) but ultimately it will be decided by
>> the PPMC members.
>>
>> On 18/01/12 18:37, "Alex Hugh" <alex.hugh35@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Hi Doug,
>> >
>> >I have a real concern as to how reliable the voting works when we want to
>> >choose the best logo for Apache Flex, remember
>> >this is based on quantity, not quality. The idea is bad.
>> >
>> >Can I suggest that you should invite the right designers in Adobe, Leo
>> >Burnett, Ogilvy, etc to do the voting and not us since
>> >we are not truly the best person to decide. I believe choosing the wrong
>> >logo will tend to give the wrong impression and purpose.
>> >
>> >Thanks.
>> >
>> >Hugh.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:57 AM, Dany Dhondt <archemedia@mac.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> +1
>> >>
>> >> -Dany
>> >>
>> >> Op 18-jan.-2012, om 17:47 heeft Doug McCune het volgende geschreven:
>> >>
>> >>> One additional thought... what about removing the authors names and
>> >>>even
>> >>> randomizing the list of entries now that the contest is closed? This
>> >>>has
>> >>> two effects:
>> >>>
>> >>> 1. People aren't swayed by who created the logo (as much). People
>> >certainly
>> >>> wouldn't be swayed by seeing votes come in for a certain person's
>> logo.
>> >All
>> >>> you'd see are votes for entry numbers.
>> >>>
>> >>> 2. People are forced to look at every logo again. Since the rules of
>> >>> submission were that you were supposed to submit and then update the
>> >>>same
>> >>> preview URL with any updates, there may have been updates to various
>> >logos.
>> >>> Lazy voters might look at a submission entry in the list and already
>> >>>know
>> >>> how they are going to vote, but the logo might have been changed since
>> >they
>> >>> originally looked at it. If we anonymize and randomize the entries
>> then
>> >we
>> >>> force people to look at each one during the voting process. It will
>> >>>take
>> >>> longer, since voters can't just skip over ones they know they don't
>> >>>like,
>> >>> but given the fact that logos can change since they were submitted I
>> >think
>> >>> that might be more a pro than a con.
>> >>
>>
>>
>

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