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From Csomák Gábor <csom...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: my suggestions
Date Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:09:48 GMT
no i don't believe. I love Flex :) but lots of my connections have the
problem, that the costumers want html5, but it would be much better and
useful in flash.
like at join.me , we are experimenting with html5, but it is so slow. while
flash works awesome.
customers pay, and they are stupid, they believe in media.

On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Quentin Le Hénaff <lekant@gmail.com> wrote:

> Flash, in order to die, HTML5 Canvas should live and be performant ; which
> is not what I see... BTW, do you really believe the Media ;) ?
>
> I strongly agree with Rui ; in a way, every technology relies on another
> technology that has its own drawbacks. Let's focus on stuff.
> With a strong argumentation, we could ask or force Adobe to do something
> about the FP or even create a fork on the project if really necessary, but
> we are not here now ; let's keep it simple for the beginning
>
> 2012/1/10 Csomák Gábor <csomakk@gmail.com>
>
> > sorry for starting a flame war. i just meant, that if flash really dies
> > (what is the purpose of the media), flex also. recreating it in
> javascript
> > is not an option.
> > i meant we need to show, that there is place for both flash and html5.
> the
> > two things is completely different. html5 has a canvas tag. so what?
> flash
> > has a webview component.
> > but if the people hear every day that flash is dead, they won't pay for a
> > flash ria, even if it would be faster, better, cheaper.  please don't
> take
> > it as an offense, i'm not fighting, it was my toughs. I'm young, so i can
> > be wrong :)
> >
> > peace.
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Raju Bitter <rajubitter@googlemail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > > This project should not, in my opinion, focus on the actual runtime
> > > except for the very specific cases
> > > > were it is absolutely necessary. I say that we deal with issues
> > > regarding runtime and language when
> > > > they appear letting the community decide how to best deal with them.
> > > Don't really agree with you here. Even Adobe started investigating
> > > JavaScript generation out of ActionScript code. If the creator of
> > > Flex, ActionScript and Flash investigate cross-compilation of
> > > ActionScript to JavaScript, why should Apache Flex ignore that
> > > approach?
> > >
> > > I see one of the chances of an Apache Flex versus Adobe Flex that the
> > > community can drive the project into a direction, where an HTML5 based
> > > runtime for Flex will be created. If you'd rather see that as a
> > > separate project next to Flex (e.g. Apache Falcon), that's of course
> > > an option.
> > >
> > > Is there any legally binding agreement between Apache Flex and Adobe
> > > that the company will always provide a runtime environment for Flash
> > > for the next 3-5 years? If not, Adobe can at any time pull the plug on
> > > - let's say - desktop browser Flash Player, and only offer AIR/mobile
> > > App generation out of ActionScript.
> > >
> > > Just my thoughts, I'm aware of the fact that quite a few people will
> not
> > > agree.
> > >
> > > - Raju
> > >
> >
>

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