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From Stephane Beladaci <adobeflexengin...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Have Adobe ever published a list of what they are giving to Apache?
Date Sat, 14 Jan 2012 02:03:43 GMT
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Jeffry Houser <jeffry@dot-com-it.com> wrote:
>  So, my offensive question of the day...
>  What makes you the person with proper qualifications to do this?  Since you
> aren't one of the initial commiters, nor a mentor?

No offense taken, I never said I am that person, I even said that I do
not wish to be an admin neither due to the controversial nature of my
own personal stands on social media (even though I do not intend to
carry those stands on an Apache Flex page, being an admin would mean
there would be a link to my page and I do not want scare some
community members with my own stuff, nor will I ever censure myself on
my own page, therefore I might not even be an appropriate admin for
the page, even less a creator. The only reason I went through and
created the page is because other community members started to create
a page and ask on the list how to do things, whoever create and
administrate that page should not be asking how to do the most simple
administration task on this list, it should be someone who knows
Facebook and have experience administrating pages.

>  Also on the thread, Bertrand [our sponsor] stated that we were not in
> violation.  Code had been submitted; the project is in it's incubation
> stage, and public mailing lists are set up.

I got that now, case closed.

>> Anyhow, when you create a Facebook page you have to make sure you do
>> it right and immediately secure the username for that page,
>  To get an alias (AKA username) for a page you need a minimum number of
> users.  It used to be 100.  It was eventually lowered to 25.  See the third
> question here: http://www.facebook.com/help/pages/usernames regarding
> requirements.

That is not accurate, it depends how many existing pages, the admin
activity and history etc.. I guarantee you that I created a page
titled "Apache Flex" yesterday and secured the username "apacheflex"
and was able to access that page with facebook.com/apacheflex, but
since I was told that anything outside of Apache.com is not official
and we should no be paranoid and deleted that page and the username is
now free for anyone to grab. Whether you can grab it now as I did or
after a certain number of likes if entirely up to Facebook algorithm.

>  I have no idea how you secured a username for the page without 25 fans.  I
> believe for us to get an alias already in use; we'd have to file some form
> of trademark violation report to Facebook.  They are not transferable.

Well I did and yes you are right, usually when I create a page for a
client I will go through the process of having Facebook shut down any
page using the same name and transfer all page members to the official
one, we can't transfer ownership however my plan was to just keep that
page unpublished just so no one can secure the usename and short url,
after what I would have deleted the page which would have made the
name available again for whoever in charge of the official page to
secure. But again, I was told this is overkilled so I deleted it, if
anyone secure the Apache Flex username you will have to complain to
Facebook and claim copyright violation to get the name back.

>  I think you made our life more difficult; thanks!

I think I did what you should have done in the first place the day
Flex project was approved but again I deleted the page so now it's all
yours (or whoever is faster)

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