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From Scott Delamater <scott.delama...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: my suggestions
Date Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:20:45 GMT
Regarding media, it's important to note that most technology decisions are
driven (at least in part) by someone who's aware of what's going on in that
tech space--even in a small company. That's obvious, I know, but if Apache
Flex is a great product, the technology "deciders" will understand that.
Their advocacy will be much more valuable than some external, concerted
media effort. (Consider Apache Web Server...)

Let's just make a great product.

Cheers,

sD

2012/1/10 Csomák Gábor <csomakk@gmail.com>

> no i don't believe. I love Flex :) but lots of my connections have the
> problem, that the costumers want html5, but it would be much better and
> useful in flash.
> like at join.me , we are experimenting with html5, but it is so slow.
> while
> flash works awesome.
> customers pay, and they are stupid, they believe in media.
>
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Quentin Le Hénaff <lekant@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Flash, in order to die, HTML5 Canvas should live and be performant ;
> which
> > is not what I see... BTW, do you really believe the Media ;) ?
> >
> > I strongly agree with Rui ; in a way, every technology relies on another
> > technology that has its own drawbacks. Let's focus on stuff.
> > With a strong argumentation, we could ask or force Adobe to do something
> > about the FP or even create a fork on the project if really necessary,
> but
> > we are not here now ; let's keep it simple for the beginning
> >
> > 2012/1/10 Csomák Gábor <csomakk@gmail.com>
> >
> > > sorry for starting a flame war. i just meant, that if flash really dies
> > > (what is the purpose of the media), flex also. recreating it in
> > javascript
> > > is not an option.
> > > i meant we need to show, that there is place for both flash and html5.
> > the
> > > two things is completely different. html5 has a canvas tag. so what?
> > flash
> > > has a webview component.
> > > but if the people hear every day that flash is dead, they won't pay
> for a
> > > flash ria, even if it would be faster, better, cheaper.  please don't
> > take
> > > it as an offense, i'm not fighting, it was my toughs. I'm young, so i
> can
> > > be wrong :)
> > >
> > > peace.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Raju Bitter <
> rajubitter@googlemail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > > This project should not, in my opinion, focus on the actual runtime
> > > > except for the very specific cases
> > > > > were it is absolutely necessary. I say that we deal with issues
> > > > regarding runtime and language when
> > > > > they appear letting the community decide how to best deal with
> them.
> > > > Don't really agree with you here. Even Adobe started investigating
> > > > JavaScript generation out of ActionScript code. If the creator of
> > > > Flex, ActionScript and Flash investigate cross-compilation of
> > > > ActionScript to JavaScript, why should Apache Flex ignore that
> > > > approach?
> > > >
> > > > I see one of the chances of an Apache Flex versus Adobe Flex that the
> > > > community can drive the project into a direction, where an HTML5
> based
> > > > runtime for Flex will be created. If you'd rather see that as a
> > > > separate project next to Flex (e.g. Apache Falcon), that's of course
> > > > an option.
> > > >
> > > > Is there any legally binding agreement between Apache Flex and Adobe
> > > > that the company will always provide a runtime environment for Flash
> > > > for the next 3-5 years? If not, Adobe can at any time pull the plug
> on
> > > > - let's say - desktop browser Flash Player, and only offer AIR/mobile
> > > > App generation out of ActionScript.
> > > >
> > > > Just my thoughts, I'm aware of the fact that quite a few people will
> > not
> > > > agree.
> > > >
> > > > - Raju
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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