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From Jonathan Campos <jonbcam...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Flex performance
Date Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:10:27 GMT
And you did. I made sure to apologize early to you because it wasn't your
comment, but just general comments of first priorities and what is
important. My worry is that some of these discussions hinder someone that
may come in that doesn't feel like they can help rearchitect the framework,
but just has a null-pointer fix to some component. I would worry that
someone would read these posts - which are all meant to be very positive
and get everyone rallied together - and worry that this is not a place for
them.

I just want to make sure that everyone is welcome.

On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Jeffry Houser <jeffry@dot-com-it.com> wrote:

>
>  No argument.
>
>  I'd like to think I was clearly expressing personal preference, not
> dictating other people's actions.
>
>
> On 1/4/2012 5:44 PM, Jonathan Campos wrote:
>
>> Just to be fair. If they want to make another set of Components that is
>> completely their choice. Sorry Jeff for responding with this to your post,
>> just see lots of people talking about what should and should not be done.
>> We all have to remember that some  people's passions may be in a different
>> direction then what we believe and that is perfectly okay.
>>
>> I can't say that everyone's passion will be accepted into the trunk, but
>> you are more than happy to work on it.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Jeffry Houser <jeffry@dot-com-it.com<mailto:
>> jeffry@dot-com-it.com>**> wrote:
>>
>>
>>     Has open Laszlo stayed up to date?  I hadn't heard of it in many
>>    years.
>>
>>     I--personally--would  rather see efforts put towards optimizing
>>    existing Flex Components or the component framework; not on
>>    creating a 3rd component framework within Flex.
>>
>>
>>    On 1/4/2012 5:10 PM, Raju Bitter wrote:
>>
>>        It would make sense to build a light-weight component set for
>>        Flex,
>>        which could be used for rendering Flex apps in HTML5 later on. The
>>        approach could be based on the UI/component implementation
>>        OpenLaszlo
>>        has (which provides cross-compilation features for
>>        ActionScript and
>>        JavaScript, check this demo):
>>        http://vimeo.com/32853986
>>        HTML5 version
>>        http://www.openlaszlo.org/lps_**demos/demos/lzpix/app.lzx?lzr=**
>> dhtml <http://www.openlaszlo.org/lps_demos/demos/lzpix/app.lzx?lzr=dhtml>
>>        SWF version
>>        http://www.openlaszlo.org/lps_**demos/demos/lzpix/app.lzx?lzr=**
>> swf10 <http://www.openlaszlo.org/lps_demos/demos/lzpix/app.lzx?lzr=swf10>
>>
>>        2012/1/4 Fr├ęderic Cox<frederic@exuvis.com
>>        <mailto:frederic@exuvis.com>>:
>>
>>
>>            And it's not only on mobile, on desktop (mostly Mac's)
>>            this is a problem
>>            also. I'm talking about big enterprise applications and
>>            websites here
>>            (like a CMS with graphical skin applied, nothing really in
>>            standard Flex
>>            skin)
>>
>>            On 04/01/12 22:49, "Arthur
>>            Lockman"<arthurlockman@ajobi.**net <arthurlockman@ajobi.net>
>>            <mailto:arthurlockman@ajobi.**net <arthurlockman@ajobi.net>>>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>                +1 on this. Performance definitely needs to be
>>                addressed on Flex. I've
>>                noticed that on newer devices, it works fine. But on
>>                the slightly older
>>                ones, performance is a huge issue. Hopefully we can
>>                get in there and
>>                clean it up so it performs better.
>>
>>
>>                --
>>                Arthur Lockman | Senior Developer @ Vivace
>>                vi.vace.me <http://vi.vace.me>
>>                Twitter: @arthurlockman
>>                a.rthr.me <http://a.rthr.me>
>>
>>
>>
>>                On Wednesday, January 4, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Fr├ęderic Cox
>>                wrote:
>>
>>                    I've worked on Flex applications for the past 4-5
>>                    years and see a lot
>>                    of developers picking it up since it is easy to
>>                    create rich
>>                    applications. However performance is often an issue.
>>
>>                    I mostly see it when using a lot of styles (or one
>>                    large CSS file) and
>>                    skinned components (It is even worse with Flex 4
>>                    then it was with Flex
>>                    3). When a Flex application gets really large the
>>                    UI is blocked because
>>                    there is too much actionscript code needed to get
>>                    things running. (with
>>                    this I mean the processing time is acceptable but
>>                    UI is blocked so the
>>                    perception is that things are slow)
>>
>>                    Therefore I'd like to vote on improving the
>>                    performance of the Flex
>>                    framework where possible so new and existing
>>                    applications can benefit.
>>                    Flex 4 with spark is great but comes with some
>>                    performance drawbacks, I
>>                    hope we can improve on this significantly.
>>
>>                    I'm speaking on behalf of the experience and
>>                    perception in the company
>>                    I work for, I'm curious to see if this is also a
>>                    problem for the rest of
>>                    you.
>>
>>                    I'm not the expert here but I'd like to get
>>                    involved and learn so I can
>>                    eventually help to fix issues but I believe
>>                    UIComponent had some
>>                    overhead and this together with the StyleManager
>>                    can cause performance
>>                    drawbacks in large applications
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>    --     Jeffry Houser
>>    Technical Entrepreneur
>>    203-379-0773 <tel:203-379-0773>
>>
>>    --
>>    http://www.flextras.com?c=104
>>    UI Flex Components: Tested! Supported! Ready!
>>    --
>>    http://www.theflexshow.com
>>    http://www.jeffryhouser.com
>>    http://www.asktheflexpert.com
>>    --
>>    Part of the DotComIt Brain Trust
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jonathan Campos
>> Dallas Flex User Group Manager
>> http://www.d-flex.org/
>> blog: http://www.unitedmindset.com/**jonbcampos<http://www.unitedmindset.com/jonbcampos>
>> twitter: http://www.twitter.com/**jonbcampos<http://www.twitter.com/jonbcampos>
>>
>
>
> --
> Jeffry Houser
> Technical Entrepreneur
> 203-379-0773
> --
> http://www.flextras.com?c=104
> UI Flex Components: Tested! Supported! Ready!
> --
> http://www.theflexshow.com
> http://www.jeffryhouser.com
> http://www.asktheflexpert.com
> --
> Part of the DotComIt Brain Trust
>
>


-- 
Jonathan Campos
Dallas Flex User Group Manager
http://www.d-flex.org/
blog: http://www.unitedmindset.com/jonbcampos
twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonbcampos

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