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From Jonathan Campos <jonbcam...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Flex performance
Date Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:12:31 GMT
I'm probably worrying about this a bit too early and I know I've violated
this a bit also. I'm going to watch what I say.

On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Jonathan Campos <jonbcampos@gmail.com>wrote:

> And you did. I made sure to apologize early to you because it wasn't your
> comment, but just general comments of first priorities and what is
> important. My worry is that some of these discussions hinder someone that
> may come in that doesn't feel like they can help rearchitect the framework,
> but just has a null-pointer fix to some component. I would worry that
> someone would read these posts - which are all meant to be very positive
> and get everyone rallied together - and worry that this is not a place for
> them.
>
> I just want to make sure that everyone is welcome.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Jeffry Houser <jeffry@dot-com-it.com>wrote:
>
>>
>>  No argument.
>>
>>  I'd like to think I was clearly expressing personal preference, not
>> dictating other people's actions.
>>
>>
>> On 1/4/2012 5:44 PM, Jonathan Campos wrote:
>>
>>> Just to be fair. If they want to make another set of Components that is
>>> completely their choice. Sorry Jeff for responding with this to your post,
>>> just see lots of people talking about what should and should not be done.
>>> We all have to remember that some  people's passions may be in a different
>>> direction then what we believe and that is perfectly okay.
>>>
>>> I can't say that everyone's passion will be accepted into the trunk, but
>>> you are more than happy to work on it.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Jeffry Houser <jeffry@dot-com-it.com<mailto:
>>> jeffry@dot-com-it.com>**> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>     Has open Laszlo stayed up to date?  I hadn't heard of it in many
>>>    years.
>>>
>>>     I--personally--would  rather see efforts put towards optimizing
>>>    existing Flex Components or the component framework; not on
>>>    creating a 3rd component framework within Flex.
>>>
>>>
>>>    On 1/4/2012 5:10 PM, Raju Bitter wrote:
>>>
>>>        It would make sense to build a light-weight component set for
>>>        Flex,
>>>        which could be used for rendering Flex apps in HTML5 later on. The
>>>        approach could be based on the UI/component implementation
>>>        OpenLaszlo
>>>        has (which provides cross-compilation features for
>>>        ActionScript and
>>>        JavaScript, check this demo):
>>>        http://vimeo.com/32853986
>>>        HTML5 version
>>>        http://www.openlaszlo.org/lps_**demos/demos/lzpix/app.lzx?lzr=**
>>> dhtml<http://www.openlaszlo.org/lps_demos/demos/lzpix/app.lzx?lzr=dhtml>
>>>        SWF version
>>>        http://www.openlaszlo.org/lps_**demos/demos/lzpix/app.lzx?lzr=**
>>> swf10<http://www.openlaszlo.org/lps_demos/demos/lzpix/app.lzx?lzr=swf10>
>>>
>>>        2012/1/4 Fr├ęderic Cox<frederic@exuvis.com
>>>        <mailto:frederic@exuvis.com>>:
>>>
>>>
>>>            And it's not only on mobile, on desktop (mostly Mac's)
>>>            this is a problem
>>>            also. I'm talking about big enterprise applications and
>>>            websites here
>>>            (like a CMS with graphical skin applied, nothing really in
>>>            standard Flex
>>>            skin)
>>>
>>>            On 04/01/12 22:49, "Arthur
>>>            Lockman"<arthurlockman@ajobi.**net <arthurlockman@ajobi.net>
>>>            <mailto:arthurlockman@ajobi.**net <arthurlockman@ajobi.net>>>
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>                +1 on this. Performance definitely needs to be
>>>                addressed on Flex. I've
>>>                noticed that on newer devices, it works fine. But on
>>>                the slightly older
>>>                ones, performance is a huge issue. Hopefully we can
>>>                get in there and
>>>                clean it up so it performs better.
>>>
>>>
>>>                --
>>>                Arthur Lockman | Senior Developer @ Vivace
>>>                vi.vace.me <http://vi.vace.me>
>>>                Twitter: @arthurlockman
>>>                a.rthr.me <http://a.rthr.me>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                On Wednesday, January 4, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Fr├ęderic Cox
>>>                wrote:
>>>
>>>                    I've worked on Flex applications for the past 4-5
>>>                    years and see a lot
>>>                    of developers picking it up since it is easy to
>>>                    create rich
>>>                    applications. However performance is often an issue.
>>>
>>>                    I mostly see it when using a lot of styles (or one
>>>                    large CSS file) and
>>>                    skinned components (It is even worse with Flex 4
>>>                    then it was with Flex
>>>                    3). When a Flex application gets really large the
>>>                    UI is blocked because
>>>                    there is too much actionscript code needed to get
>>>                    things running. (with
>>>                    this I mean the processing time is acceptable but
>>>                    UI is blocked so the
>>>                    perception is that things are slow)
>>>
>>>                    Therefore I'd like to vote on improving the
>>>                    performance of the Flex
>>>                    framework where possible so new and existing
>>>                    applications can benefit.
>>>                    Flex 4 with spark is great but comes with some
>>>                    performance drawbacks, I
>>>                    hope we can improve on this significantly.
>>>
>>>                    I'm speaking on behalf of the experience and
>>>                    perception in the company
>>>                    I work for, I'm curious to see if this is also a
>>>                    problem for the rest of
>>>                    you.
>>>
>>>                    I'm not the expert here but I'd like to get
>>>                    involved and learn so I can
>>>                    eventually help to fix issues but I believe
>>>                    UIComponent had some
>>>                    overhead and this together with the StyleManager
>>>                    can cause performance
>>>                    drawbacks in large applications
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    --     Jeffry Houser
>>>    Technical Entrepreneur
>>>    203-379-0773 <tel:203-379-0773>
>>>
>>>    --
>>>    http://www.flextras.com?c=104
>>>    UI Flex Components: Tested! Supported! Ready!
>>>    --
>>>    http://www.theflexshow.com
>>>    http://www.jeffryhouser.com
>>>    http://www.asktheflexpert.com
>>>    --
>>>    Part of the DotComIt Brain Trust
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jonathan Campos
>>> Dallas Flex User Group Manager
>>> http://www.d-flex.org/
>>> blog: http://www.unitedmindset.com/**jonbcampos<http://www.unitedmindset.com/jonbcampos>
>>> twitter: http://www.twitter.com/**jonbcampos<http://www.twitter.com/jonbcampos>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jeffry Houser
>> Technical Entrepreneur
>> 203-379-0773
>> --
>> http://www.flextras.com?c=104
>> UI Flex Components: Tested! Supported! Ready!
>> --
>> http://www.theflexshow.com
>> http://www.jeffryhouser.com
>> http://www.asktheflexpert.com
>> --
>> Part of the DotComIt Brain Trust
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Jonathan Campos
> Dallas Flex User Group Manager
> http://www.d-flex.org/
> blog: http://www.unitedmindset.com/jonbcampos
> twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonbcampos
>



-- 
Jonathan Campos
Dallas Flex User Group Manager
http://www.d-flex.org/
blog: http://www.unitedmindset.com/jonbcampos
twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonbcampos

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