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From Quentin Le Hénaff <>
Subject Re: my suggestions
Date Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:59:01 GMT
Flash, in order to die, HTML5 Canvas should live and be performant ; which
is not what I see... BTW, do you really believe the Media ;) ?

I strongly agree with Rui ; in a way, every technology relies on another
technology that has its own drawbacks. Let's focus on stuff.
With a strong argumentation, we could ask or force Adobe to do something
about the FP or even create a fork on the project if really necessary, but
we are not here now ; let's keep it simple for the beginning

2012/1/10 Csomák Gábor <>

> sorry for starting a flame war. i just meant, that if flash really dies
> (what is the purpose of the media), flex also. recreating it in javascript
> is not an option.
> i meant we need to show, that there is place for both flash and html5. the
> two things is completely different. html5 has a canvas tag. so what? flash
> has a webview component.
> but if the people hear every day that flash is dead, they won't pay for a
> flash ria, even if it would be faster, better, cheaper.  please don't take
> it as an offense, i'm not fighting, it was my toughs. I'm young, so i can
> be wrong :)
> peace.
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Raju Bitter <
> >wrote:
> > > This project should not, in my opinion, focus on the actual runtime
> > except for the very specific cases
> > > were it is absolutely necessary. I say that we deal with issues
> > regarding runtime and language when
> > > they appear letting the community decide how to best deal with them.
> > Don't really agree with you here. Even Adobe started investigating
> > JavaScript generation out of ActionScript code. If the creator of
> > Flex, ActionScript and Flash investigate cross-compilation of
> > ActionScript to JavaScript, why should Apache Flex ignore that
> > approach?
> >
> > I see one of the chances of an Apache Flex versus Adobe Flex that the
> > community can drive the project into a direction, where an HTML5 based
> > runtime for Flex will be created. If you'd rather see that as a
> > separate project next to Flex (e.g. Apache Falcon), that's of course
> > an option.
> >
> > Is there any legally binding agreement between Apache Flex and Adobe
> > that the company will always provide a runtime environment for Flash
> > for the next 3-5 years? If not, Adobe can at any time pull the plug on
> > - let's say - desktop browser Flash Player, and only offer AIR/mobile
> > App generation out of ActionScript.
> >
> > Just my thoughts, I'm aware of the fact that quite a few people will not
> > agree.
> >
> > - Raju
> >

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