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From FRANKLIN GARZON <fgarzo...@hotmail.com>
Subject RE: [OT] Atlassian
Date Sat, 28 Jan 2012 21:43:07 GMT

I hope in few weeks later have a good news to contribute into development with this community.


Franklin Garzón
 
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 > Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:23:25 -0600
> Subject: Re: [OT] Atlassian
> From: flexcapacitor@gmail.com
> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
> 
> Very cool...
> 
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> > Adobe Connect.[1] It very clearly leverages Flash as you suggest. In many
> > of the same ways. Some are switching to that from GotoMeeting.
> >
> > Apache OpenMeetings[2] is in the incubator.
> >
> > [1] http://www.adobe.com/products/adobeconnect.html
> > [2] http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/
> >
> > On Jan 28, 2012, at 1:05 PM, jude wrote:
> >
> > > The Flash Player is unique in that it creates markets. When Adobe or
> > > Macromedia added webcam support all of a sudden video chat applications
> > are
> > > possible, QR code readers are made possible, augmented reality is made
> > > possible, face recognition is made possible, motion tracking is made
> > > possible, etc. (add "on a mass scale" to all of these things.)
> > >
> > > When they added microphone support speech to text is made possible,
> > podcast
> > > applications are made possible, voip are made possible, live digital
> > audio
> > > software is made possible.
> > >
> > > When they added video decoding support movies and television content were
> > > made possible.
> > >
> > > At each of these points in time Adobe had a potential opportunity. Think
> > of
> > > all the businesses that exist because of these features. Theoretically
> > > speaking they could have made a Skype (and still can), they could and can
> > > make a Google Voice, they could and can make an iTunes. They could and
> > did
> > > make a GoToMeeting but that's another story. But I *wouldn't* recommend
> > > them doing these things (not if it means laying off other teams). They
> > are
> > > great at tooling and I think they should focus on that but there is a way
> > > for them to benefit from all of these innovations.
> > >
> > > If I was trying to make Flash profitable I would have someone on the
> > Flash
> > > Player and Flex SDK feature releases and forums and watch for and promote
> > > new projects using their new features. Then I'd invest in those
> > developers
> > > and companies and do everything I can to make them successful. As the
> > > developers and companies are successful, Adobe would be successful too.
> > > They'd also have a continual insight into the features and needs for
> > their
> > > design and developer tools. Alex, I'll available immediately for this
> > > position ;)
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: Roland Zwaga [mailto:roland@stackandheap.com]
> > >>> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:33 AM
> > >>> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > >>> Subject: Re: [OT] Atlassian
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi Alex,
> > >>>
> > >>> So I'm trying to understand
> > >>> where
> > >>> this disconnect between Adobe and its enterprise
> > >>> customers stemmed from, when Atlassian is a great example of a company
> > >>> who
> > >>> IS able to make money in that area.
> > >>> Like I said before, I'm not attacking/bashing Adobe, I'm just trying
to
> > >>> understand where things went wrong.
> > >>>
> > >> I'm not involved in the business part of Adobe, but again, Atlassian can
> > >> get money from each employee at an enterprise customer. The Flash
> > Platform
> > >> only gets money from each developer at an enterprise customer.
> > >>
> > >> Frameworks are expensive and many very successful ones like JQuery are
> > >> 'free' and developed in the open. Adobe is trying to best serve its Flex
> > >> customers by following the same model.
> > >>
> > >> The 'disconnect' was in the execution of the announcement of these
> > >> changes, as has been discussed.
> > >>
> > >> Alex Harui
> > >> Flex SDK Developer
> > >> Adobe Systems Inc.
> > >> Blog: http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
 		 	   		  
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