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From Sebastian Mohr <masul...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Goal for Flex: Strengthening large-scale Flex applications
Date Fri, 13 Jan 2012 11:38:36 GMT
Hey Jude ...

I had to understand yesterday ... this flex-dev 
list is not the place to discuss these issues.

Maybe an analogy to the car industry 
would help to make this clear:

"We are here to build car parts. But we don't care which 
type of car you build, and, how you'd drive that thing."

Probably not even the flex-users list 
would be a place to discuss that.

I had already put some affords to define 
"Best Coding Practices", as best as I could 
see code examples:

http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample
http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/ReligionChooser

... and writing documentation:

http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/NanoarchitectureMVCb
http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/NanoarchitectureCpsh
http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/NanoarchitecturePInj

... and I hoped that Apache Flex would be 
a great place to drive this further, but, for the 
moment, these discussions seem to be way 
an overhead to Apache Flex.


-- Sebastian



On Jan 13, 2012, at 11:48 AM, jude wrote:

> I have to agree with Sebastian on this. I think it is the responsibility of
> the architects to show how they intend the architecture should be used. At
> least in an abstract way.
> 
> Flex apps with or without micro frameworks have a common setup across them
> in general. It would be helpful going forward to describe separation of
> concerns and when and where to apply certain principles.
> 
> For example, if you looked at any of the Twitter client examples currently
> online you'd see how to get the feed and hook it up to a data grid in as
> few lines of code as possible. In a production edition you wouldn't do
> that.
> 
> You'd want to describe the package structure, the use of data models and
> data providers and services. You'd include when and how to use item
> renderers.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Omar Gonzalez <omarg.developer@gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> On Wednesday, January 11, 2012, Sebastian Mohr <masuland@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> @Roland
>>> 
>>> hmm ... maybe you are right ;) But this is not my concern
>>> now. I am talking about building large-scale Flex apps and
>>> how to build them the best way.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- Sebastian
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> I get what you're saying and I totally feel you, but I don't think it is
>> the responsibility of this project to teach how to use the framework in a
>> best practices type of way. We're here to advance the SDK. Although I agree
>> more educational material is required I don't think that is something we
>> need to focus on at this point.
>> 
>> That being said, nothing is stoping you from drafting such a document and
>> bringing it to the list for discussion. If it is good and everyone agrees
>> it can get voted to be adopted as official Apache Flex Best Practices,
>> otherwise the community will vote it down and we will keep moving forward.
>> At least this is my understanding of the "Apache way".
>> 
>> -omar
>> 


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