Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-etch-dev-archive@locus.apache.org Received: (qmail 62484 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2009 20:03:05 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 26 Jan 2009 20:03:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 4028 invoked by uid 500); 26 Jan 2009 20:03:05 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-etch-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 4011 invoked by uid 500); 26 Jan 2009 20:03:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact etch-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: etch-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list etch-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 4000 invoked by uid 99); 26 Jan 2009 20:03:05 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:03:05 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.0 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of sccomer@cisco.com designates 64.102.122.148 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.102.122.148] (HELO rtp-iport-1.cisco.com) (64.102.122.148) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:02:56 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,327,1231113600"; d="vcf'?scan'208";a="34919052" Received: from rtp-dkim-2.cisco.com ([64.102.121.159]) by rtp-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 26 Jan 2009 20:02:34 +0000 Received: from rtp-core-2.cisco.com (rtp-core-2.cisco.com [64.102.124.13]) by rtp-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n0QK2YcB031946 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:02:34 -0500 Received: from xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-201.cisco.com [64.102.31.12]) by rtp-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0QK2Yng004057 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:02:34 GMT Received: from xfe-rtp-202.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.21]) by xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:02:34 -0500 Received: from [10.89.30.194] ([10.89.30.194]) by xfe-rtp-202.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:02:33 -0500 Message-ID: <497E16DA.1000804@cisco.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:02:34 -0600 From: "scott comer (sccomer)" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: etch-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Voting... References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020508040906050208010307" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jan 2009 20:02:33.0642 (UTC) FILETIME=[06E708A0:01C97FF1] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=1739; t=1233000154; x=1233864154; c=relaxed/simple; s=rtpdkim2001; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=sccomer@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22scott=20comer=20(sccomer)=22=20 |Subject:=20Re=3A=20Voting... |Sender:=20 |To:=20etch-dev@incubator.apache.org; bh=3dFWGLSzSts7cJXYyeq1GKru0mkVFzfrHN6rsqdoVJ0=; b=ogStzxyhJu9YI9otF9blR+ganJxdcULlQ3Q6N3Ytd80z2c+puSqfCdVC3D yUzbcP0+nNoqwwAuJMSPTyiULMXmg/Dij896Cx869UOat4vl+asLKljaiW20 NsIQARRMQ9; Authentication-Results: rtp-dkim-2; header.From=sccomer@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/rtpdkim2001 verified; ); X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --------------020508040906050208010307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit so, how do you see that working. i have etch-31, i'm wanting to put that in the release. do i just say, i wanna put this in the release invite discussion and while that's going on i do it? scott out Niclas Hedhman wrote: > Guys, > I have a feeling that "too much" voting is going on... Typically we > run "consensus" in Apache projects, i.e. someone makes a suggestion > for changes or actions, and if people object they yell, otherwise > proceed. For code changes, typically that means that the 'proposer' go > ahead and make the changes, and if objections shows up and resolved to > not make the change, then that is reversed. This has been coined CTR > (Commit-Then-Review). Httpd project and others, run a RTC format for > stable branches, but the vast majority uses the CTR model (incl httpd > during 'new heavy development'). > > So, the only 'requirement' for proper voting is Releases (well, some > community issues as well, but...), which is a legal act and must be > done properly. > > Cheers > Niclas > --------------020508040906050208010307--