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From Sig Rinde <...@rinde.com>
Subject Re: svn commit: r930136 - in /incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp: style/style.css templates-hidden/message.html
Date Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:00:36 GMT
As outsider:

For work purposes it makes sense as Ethan says to not have limit.

But I do agree with Anne that short looks better, gives more info per
square foot interface... but, actually, I really believe that it will
sort itself out as long and windy messages will look, eh, long and
windy and certainly not cool - it's called peer pressure :) So soon
you'll find all going short despite freedom to occasionally going
long.

(and with twitter many will be used to stay short already)

<end of long and windy message>



On 6 April 2010 22:52, Anne Kathrine Petterøe <yojibee@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nope and nope (yet).
>
> Right now we don't have a fixed length to our messages, which I was never a big fan of.
From a UI developer perspective it is a bit difficult to make it nice looking when you don't
know if what comes has 140 characters or 1400.
>
>
> On 6. apr. 2010, at 22.41, Sig Rinde wrote:
>
>> Do you have countdown from 140 as well?
>> And url shortening?
>> Two very nice twitter features that..
>>
>> Would definitely not be cool to manually count the chars :)
>>
>>
>> On 6 April 2010 22:29, Ethan Jewett <esjewett@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Thanks for doing this! I guess I'd leave it open until we have a more
>>> permanent fix, but maybe lower the "badness" of the issue and make a
>>> note of why that is happening?
>>>
>>> I'm actually starting to think that the best way to do this is to have
>>> the javascript that populates the message text that is being replied
>>> to truncate that text to 140 characters (or something). The user just
>>> needs a sample and JS has easy functions for doing this. Hmmm. Maybe
>>> tonight.
>>>
>>> What do you think? Do we want truncation or stretching as our final
>>> fix for this issue?
>>>
>>> Ethan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
>>> <yojibee@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> If we encourage our users not to use more than 140 characters (which I always
thought we should) - we are now safe. Shall I leave the ticket open as this is a bit of a
quick fix, seeing we haven't imposed any limits for how long the messages can be. (yet)
>>>>
>>>> /Anne
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4. apr. 2010, at 01.44, Ethan Jewett wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I already opened ESME-188 for this issue (the input area expanding) -
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ESME-188
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think we need to move anything. Instead, we either need to
>>>>> restrict the total length of the "reply to" section to only display
>>>>> part of the message being replied to, or we need to make the input
>>>>> area background expand dynamically to accomodate varied message
>>>>> lengths.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ethan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
>>>>> <yojibee@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I'll take a look at it tomorrow.
>>>>>> We could also make the update box background a bit longer too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3. apr. 2010, at 18.57, Richard Hirsch wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe it was some other tool.  Smaller font and other color
(grey?) might be
>>>>>>> one option
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe <yojibee@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I will take a look at it during tomorrow's daily UI hour,
but smaller font
>>>>>>>> might be one solution.
>>>>>>>> twitter doesn't display the "reply to:" at all and brizzly
displays an
>>>>>>>> reply to box inline.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 3. apr. 2010, at 18.52, Richard Hirsch wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> let's look at how twitter / brizzly do it. They use a
smaller font.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
<
>>>>>>>> yojibee@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I like it :-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now sort of unrelated.
>>>>>>>>>> I think we need to move the "reply to" function,
as it currently is it
>>>>>>>>>> pushes the Share with and Update button out of the
"what are you working
>>>>>>>> on"
>>>>>>>>>> box. Where should we move it to?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2. apr. 2010, at 01.33, esjewett@apache.org wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Author: esjewett
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Thu Apr  1 23:33:10 2010
>>>>>>>>>>> New Revision: 930136
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=930136&view=rev
>>>>>>>>>>> Log:
>>>>>>>>>>> [ESME-187] Re-arrange input area so that the
flow is a little better -
>>>>>>>>>> this is a bit of an experiment - feel free to back
out
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Modified:
>>>>>>>>>>>  incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/style/style.css
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/templates-hidden/message.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Modified: incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/style/style.css
>>>>>>>>>>> URL:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/style/style.css?rev=930136&r1=930135&r2=930136&view=diff
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>>>>>>>>> --- incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/style/style.css
>>>>>>>>>> (original)
>>>>>>>>>>> +++ incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/style/style.css
Thu Apr
>>>>>>>>>> 1 23:33:10 2010
>>>>>>>>>>> @@ -192,10 +192,15 @@ label {
>>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>>> .login-btn, .update-btn, .submit-btn {
>>>>>>>>>>>     float:right;
>>>>>>>>>>> -}
>>>>>>>>>>> +}
>>>>>>>>>>> +.share-select {
>>>>>>>>>>> +     float:left;
>>>>>>>>>>> +}
>>>>>>>>>>> .update-btn {
>>>>>>>>>>> -     margin-top:20px;
>>>>>>>>>>> -     padding-top:10px;
>>>>>>>>>>> +     margin-right:40px;
>>>>>>>>>>> +}
>>>>>>>>>>> +.update-btn, .share-select {
>>>>>>>>>>> +     margin-top:10px;
>>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>>> #form-update label {
>>>>>>>>>>>     font-weight:bold;
>>>>>>>>>>> @@ -216,7 +221,7 @@ textarea.inputBox2 {
>>>>>>>>>>>     float:left;
>>>>>>>>>>>     background-color:#FFFFFF !important;
>>>>>>>>>>>     border:1px solid #a7aaad;
>>>>>>>>>>> -     width:440px;
>>>>>>>>>>> +     width:95%;
>>>>>>>>>>>     height:50px;
>>>>>>>>>>>     padding:4px;
>>>>>>>>>>>     margin-right:10px;color:#000;
>>>>>>>>>>> @@ -532,7 +537,7 @@ h5 { font-size: 100%; }
>>>>>>>>>>> h6 { font-size: 80%; }
>>>>>>>>>>> img, img a {border:0px; }
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -.clear {clear:both; height:20px; }
>>>>>>>>>>> +.clear {clear:both;}
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> /*
>>>>>>>>>>> .container-update, .container-tabs, .container-settings
{behavior:
>>>>>>>>>> url("src/iepngfix.htc");}
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Modified:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/templates-hidden/message.html
>>>>>>>>>>> URL:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/templates-hidden/message.html?rev=930136&r1=930135&r2=930136&view=diff
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/templates-hidden/message.html
>>>>>>>>>> (original)
>>>>>>>>>>> +++
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/templates-hidden/message.html
>>>>>>>>>> Thu Apr  1 23:33:10 2010
>>>>>>>>>>> @@ -26,29 +26,30 @@
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_request</lift:loc>
>>>>>>>>>>>                             </h3>
>>>>>>>>>>>                             <div
id="form-update">
>>>>>>>>>>> -                              
       <div id="messages"></div>
>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>> -                              
      <div class="post-form-row">
>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>> <label><lift:loc>ui_messages_share</lift:loc></label>
>>>>>>>>>>> -                              
              <select id="vPool"
>>>>>>>>>> class="inputBox2">
>>>>>>>>>>> -                              
                      <option
>>>>>>>> value="0">
>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>> <lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_pool_public</lift:loc>
>>>>>>>>>>> -                              
                      </option>
>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>> <lift:UserSnip.accessPools/>
>>>>>>>>>>> -                              
              </select>
>>>>>>>>>>> -                              
      </div>
>>>>>>>>>>> -                              
      <div class="row clear"
>>>>>>>>>> style="display: none" id="reply-to-div">
>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>> <b><lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_reply</lift:loc></b>
>>>>>>>>>>> -                              
             <span
>>>>>>>>>> id="reply-to-span">-</span>
>>>>>>>>>>> -                              
             <a href="javascript:
>>>>>>>>>> clearReplyTo()">
>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>> <lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_remove_reply</lift:loc>
>>>>>>>>>>> -                              
             </a>
>>>>>>>>>>> -                              
         </div>
>>>>>>>>>>> +                              
      <div id="messages"></div>
>>>>>>>>>>>                              
      <div class="post-form-row">
>>>>>>>>>>>                              
              <textarea
>>>>>>>> class="inputBox2"
>>>>>>>>>> id="vMsg" rows="5" cols="80%"></textarea>
>>>>>>>>>>>                              
              <div class="row clear"
>>>>>>>>>> style="display: none">
>>>>>>>>>>>                              
                      <input id="vTag"
>>>>>>>>>> style="width: 90%"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>                              
              </div>
>>>>>>>>>>> +                              
      </div>
>>>>>>>>>>> +                              
      <div class="row clear"
>>>>>>>>>> style="display: none" id="reply-to-div">
>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>> <b><lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_reply</lift:loc></b>
>>>>>>>>>>> +                        <span
id="reply-to-span">-</span>
>>>>>>>>>>> +                        <a href="javascript:
clearReplyTo()">
>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>> <lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_remove_reply</lift:loc>
>>>>>>>>>>> +                        </a>
>>>>>>>>>>> +                    </div>
>>>>>>>>>>> +                              
      <div class="post-form-row">
>>>>>>>>>>> +                              
              <div
>>>>>>>> class="share-select">
>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>> <label><lift:loc>ui_messages_share</lift:loc></label>
>>>>>>>>>>> +                              
                      <select
>>>>>>>> id="vPool"
>>>>>>>>>> class="inputBox2">
>>>>>>>>>>> +                              
                              <option
>>>>>>>>>> value="0">
>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>> <lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_pool_public</lift:loc>
>>>>>>>>>>> +                              
                              </option>
>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>> <lift:UserSnip.accessPools/>
>>>>>>>>>>> +                              
                      </select>
>>>>>>>>>>> +                              
              </div>
>>>>>>>>>>>                              
              <div class="update-btn">
>>>>>>>>>>>                              
                      <input
>>>>>>>> type="image"
>>>>>>>>>> onclick="javascript:post_msg();" src="images/btn-update.gif"
/>
>>>>>>>>>>>                              
              </div>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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