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From Richard Hirsch <hirsch.d...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Text wrapping in timeline and popular message/links (ESME-112 and ESME-186)
Date Fri, 02 Apr 2010 06:27:39 GMT
Thanks for the UI-related work. It is great that others are doing UI work as
well.

Unfortunately, I'm on vacation and can't do a stax deployment until Tuesday.
:-<

D.

On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Ethan Jewett <esjewett@gmail.com> wrote:

> I just checked in word-wrap based fixes for both the timeline and the
> popular messages/links. Word on the street is that this actually
> should work in IE as well. Can someone build trunk and test, at least
> on IE7? Any really long link with only normal characters in it (not -)
> should trigger the issue.
>
> Thanks,
> Ethan
>
> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
> <yojibee@gmail.com> wrote:
> > OK, so we need to find a way to deal with text wrapping.
> > We should probably decide which browsers to support in release 1.1 and
> take it from there.
> >
> >
> > On 28. mars 2010, at 19.22, Ethan Jewett wrote:
> >
> >> Yup, understood re. big companies still using IE6. I was just
> >> wondering if any of our specific users (Siemens, at least) still
> >> consider it supported internally. If not, then it might make sense to
> >> consider not supporting it if it is a lot of extra work.
> >>
> >> On the messages front, it's just messages with long links, or other
> >> long unbroken text strings that suffer the wrapping problem.
> >>
> >> Ethan
> >>
> >> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
> >> <yojibee@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Is the wrapping problem for messages for all messages or just those
> containing long links?
> >>>
> >>> The problem is that many big companies still use IE6 and won't care
> about end-of-life dates.
> >>> @Dick: IE6 support is still important for Siemens right?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 28. mars 2010, at 16.28, Ethan Jewett wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Sounds like a good approach to me, but keep in mind that we still have
> >>>> the wrapping problem for messages themselves.
> >>>>
> >>>> What is the situation with IE6 support at places that have this
> >>>> deployed currently? I'm thinking since IE6 and most IE7 versions
> >>>> end-of-life is July 13th, those working on the UI might not want to
> >>>> put too much effort into it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ethan
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 4:52 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
> >>>> <yojibee@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> I am just afraid that text wrapping is something which will take
a
> significant amount of time to get right.
> >>>>> Remember we have support the following browsers:
> >>>>> IE6
> >>>>> IE7
> >>>>> IE8
> >>>>> Safari
> >>>>> Firefox
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think we should put it in the backlog for now and remove these
> features from the UI for the 1.1 release.
> >>>>> What say you?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 27. mars 2010, at 15.42, Ethan Jewett wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Whoops! I just created ESME-186 and attached it there:
> >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ESME-186
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ethan
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Richard Hirsch <
> hirsch.dick@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Ethan Jewett <esjewett@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 4:58 AM, Richard Hirsch <
> hirsch.dick@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> What I'd like to do is use JQuery tool tips to display
the help.
> I just
> >>>>>>>>> finished converting the action page and just deleted
the help.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> That sounds just about perfect!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Good luck.  Do you have suggestion of how to display
a long url?
> Maybe
> >>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>> a mouse-over that displays the fulltext.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I think for starters we could drop the # of clicks and
get away
> from a
> >>>>>>>> table-based model to a list-based model in the html.
That helps
> >>>>>>>> compact things a bit and gives us more ability to use
CSS for
> managing
> >>>>>>>> text display. The next step is to force wrapping, which
to the
> best of
> >>>>>>>> my knowledge is not really possible in CSS2. Fortunately
CSS3 has
> the
> >>>>>>>> "word-wrap:break-word" style, which does exactly what
we want.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I've attached a mock-up done using CSS3 using this approach.
What
> do you
> >>>>>>>> think?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Email it to me directly, since the esme-dev mailing deamon
usually
> kills
> >>>>>>> attachments.
> >>>>>>> Or attach it to JIRA-100 item.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> As a last resort, if we can't find a way to extend this
to
> non-CSS3
> >>>>>>>> browsers, we could probably do some fancy JS or something
to
> insert
> >>>>>>>> spaces into the text representation of the link, allowing
it to
> wrap.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> What about creating dialogs but not modal dialogs.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I think modal dialogs and normal dialogs suffer from
the same
> >>>>>>>> disadvantages in this situation.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Ethan
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
>

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