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From Ethan Jewett <esjew...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: svn commit: r930136 - in /incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp: style/style.css templates-hidden/message.html
Date Wed, 07 Apr 2010 19:59:36 GMT
It's on my list. We should have a JIRA item too. I'll create it
eventually if no one else gets to it first.

Ethan

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
<yojibee@gmail.com> wrote:
> No one seems to disagree, so truncated it is.
> Have you already looked at scripts for mouse-over display of the full URL?
>
> /Anne
>
>
> On 7 April 2010 16:55, Ethan Jewett <esjewett@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I lean towards displaying the original URL or a truncated version of
>> the original URL rather than displaying a shortened version. Short
>> URLs deliver absolutely no information other than that there is a link
>> involved, so I'd rather we use those characters to deliver some
>> information.
>>
>> If we go for a truncated version of the URL, I agree we should have a
>> mouse-over display the full URL.
>>
>> Ethan
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:26 AM, Richard Hirsch <hirsch.dick@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Actually, there is a URL-shortener built in to ESME. Post a URL in a
>> message
>> > and then look at the message in the timeline - the href is shortened. We
>> > have to decide whether to display this shortened href or the original
>> link -
>> > (Maybe as a mouse-over?)
>> >
>> > D.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Sig Rinde <sig@rinde.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Do you have countdown from 140 as well?
>> >> And url shortening?
>> >> Two very nice twitter features that..
>> >>
>> >> Would definitely not be cool to manually count the chars :)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 6 April 2010 22:29, Ethan Jewett <esjewett@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Thanks for doing this! I guess I'd leave it open until we have a more
>> >> > permanent fix, but maybe lower the "badness" of the issue and make
a
>> >> > note of why that is happening?
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm actually starting to think that the best way to do this is to have
>> >> > the javascript that populates the message text that is being replied
>> >> > to truncate that text to 140 characters (or something). The user just
>> >> > needs a sample and JS has easy functions for doing this. Hmmm. Maybe
>> >> > tonight.
>> >> >
>> >> > What do you think? Do we want truncation or stretching as our final
>> >> > fix for this issue?
>> >> >
>> >> > Ethan
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
>> >> > <yojibee@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> If we encourage our users not to use more than 140 characters (which
>> I
>> >> always thought we should) - we are now safe. Shall I leave the ticket
>> open
>> >> as this is a bit of a quick fix, seeing we haven't imposed any limits
>> for
>> >> how long the messages can be. (yet)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> /Anne
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 4. apr. 2010, at 01.44, Ethan Jewett wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Hi,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I already opened ESME-188 for this issue (the input area expanding)
>> -
>> >> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ESME-188
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I don't think we need to move anything. Instead, we either
need to
>> >> >>> restrict the total length of the "reply to" section to only
display
>> >> >>> part of the message being replied to, or we need to make the
input
>> >> >>> area background expand dynamically to accomodate varied message
>> >> >>> lengths.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Ethan
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
>> >> >>> <yojibee@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>> I'll take a look at it tomorrow.
>> >> >>>> We could also make the update box background a bit longer
too.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On 3. apr. 2010, at 18.57, Richard Hirsch wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>> Maybe it was some other tool.  Smaller font and other
color
>> (grey?)
>> >> might be
>> >> >>>>> one option
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
<
>> >> yojibee@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> I will take a look at it during tomorrow's daily
UI hour, but
>> >> smaller font
>> >> >>>>>> might be one solution.
>> >> >>>>>> twitter doesn't display the "reply to:" at all
and brizzly
>> displays
>> >> an
>> >> >>>>>> reply to box inline.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> On 3. apr. 2010, at 18.52, Richard Hirsch wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> let's look at how twitter / brizzly do it.
They use a smaller
>> font.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Anne Kathrine
Petterøe <
>> >> >>>>>> yojibee@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> I like it :-)
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> Now sort of unrelated.
>> >> >>>>>>>> I think we need to move the "reply to"
function, as it
>> currently
>> >> is it
>> >> >>>>>>>> pushes the Share with and Update button
out of the "what are
>> you
>> >> working
>> >> >>>>>> on"
>> >> >>>>>>>> box. Where should we move it to?
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> On 2. apr. 2010, at 01.33, esjewett@apache.org
wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Author: esjewett
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Date: Thu Apr  1 23:33:10 2010
>> >> >>>>>>>>> New Revision: 930136
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=930136&view=rev
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Log:
>> >> >>>>>>>>> [ESME-187] Re-arrange input area so
that the flow is a little
>> >> better -
>> >> >>>>>>>> this is a bit of an experiment - feel free
to back out
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Modified:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>  incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/style/style.css
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >>
>> incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/templates-hidden/message.html
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Modified:
>> >> incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/style/style.css
>> >> >>>>>>>>> URL:
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >>
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/style/style.css?rev=930136&r1=930135&r2=930136&view=diff
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >>
>> ==============================================================================
>> >> >>>>>>>>> ---
>> incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/style/style.css
>> >> >>>>>>>> (original)
>> >> >>>>>>>>> +++
>> incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/style/style.css
>> >> Thu Apr
>> >> >>>>>>>> 1 23:33:10 2010
>> >> >>>>>>>>> @@ -192,10 +192,15 @@ label {
>> >> >>>>>>>>> }
>> >> >>>>>>>>> .login-btn, .update-btn, .submit-btn
{
>> >> >>>>>>>>>     float:right;
>> >> >>>>>>>>> -}
>> >> >>>>>>>>> +}
>> >> >>>>>>>>> +.share-select {
>> >> >>>>>>>>> +     float:left;
>> >> >>>>>>>>> +}
>> >> >>>>>>>>> .update-btn {
>> >> >>>>>>>>> -     margin-top:20px;
>> >> >>>>>>>>> -     padding-top:10px;
>> >> >>>>>>>>> +     margin-right:40px;
>> >> >>>>>>>>> +}
>> >> >>>>>>>>> +.update-btn, .share-select {
>> >> >>>>>>>>> +     margin-top:10px;
>> >> >>>>>>>>> }
>> >> >>>>>>>>> #form-update label {
>> >> >>>>>>>>>     font-weight:bold;
>> >> >>>>>>>>> @@ -216,7 +221,7 @@ textarea.inputBox2
{
>> >> >>>>>>>>>     float:left;
>> >> >>>>>>>>>     background-color:#FFFFFF !important;
>> >> >>>>>>>>>     border:1px solid #a7aaad;
>> >> >>>>>>>>> -     width:440px;
>> >> >>>>>>>>> +     width:95%;
>> >> >>>>>>>>>     height:50px;
>> >> >>>>>>>>>     padding:4px;
>> >> >>>>>>>>>     margin-right:10px;color:#000;
>> >> >>>>>>>>> @@ -532,7 +537,7 @@ h5 { font-size:
100%; }
>> >> >>>>>>>>> h6 { font-size: 80%; }
>> >> >>>>>>>>> img, img a {border:0px; }
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> -.clear {clear:both; height:20px; }
>> >> >>>>>>>>> +.clear {clear:both;}
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> /*
>> >> >>>>>>>>> .container-update, .container-tabs,
.container-settings
>> >> {behavior:
>> >> >>>>>>>> url("src/iepngfix.htc");}
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Modified:
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >>
>> incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/templates-hidden/message.html
>> >> >>>>>>>>> URL:
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >>
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/templates-hidden/message.html?rev=930136&r1=930135&r2=930136&view=diff
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >>
>> ==============================================================================
>> >> >>>>>>>>> ---
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >>
>> incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/templates-hidden/message.html
>> >> >>>>>>>> (original)
>> >> >>>>>>>>> +++
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >>
>> incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp/templates-hidden/message.html
>> >> >>>>>>>> Thu Apr  1 23:33:10 2010
>> >> >>>>>>>>> @@ -26,29 +26,30 @@
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> <lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_request</lift:loc>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>                        
    </h3>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>                        
    <div id="form-update">
>> >> >>>>>>>>> -                      
               <div
>> id="messages"></div>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> -
>> >> >>>>>>>>> -                      
              <div
>> class="post-form-row">
>> >> >>>>>>>>> -
>> >> >>>>>>>> <label><lift:loc>ui_messages_share</lift:loc></label>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> -                      
                      <select
>> id="vPool"
>> >> >>>>>>>> class="inputBox2">
>> >> >>>>>>>>> -                      
                              <option
>> >> >>>>>> value="0">
>> >> >>>>>>>>> -
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> <lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_pool_public</lift:loc>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> -
>> </option>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> -
>> >> >>>>>>>> <lift:UserSnip.accessPools/>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> -                      
                      </select>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> -                      
              </div>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> -                      
              <div class="row clear"
>> >> >>>>>>>> style="display: none" id="reply-to-div">
>> >> >>>>>>>>> -
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> <b><lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_reply</lift:loc></b>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> -                      
                     <span
>> >> >>>>>>>> id="reply-to-span">-</span>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> -                      
                     <a
>> href="javascript:
>> >> >>>>>>>> clearReplyTo()">
>> >> >>>>>>>>> -
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> <lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_remove_reply</lift:loc>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> -                      
                     </a>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> -                      
                 </div>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> +                      
              <div
>> id="messages"></div>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>                        
            <div
>> class="post-form-row">
>> >> >>>>>>>>>                        
                    <textarea
>> >> >>>>>> class="inputBox2"
>> >> >>>>>>>> id="vMsg" rows="5" cols="80%"></textarea>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>                        
                    <div class="row
>> >> clear"
>> >> >>>>>>>> style="display: none">
>> >> >>>>>>>>>                        
                            <input
>> >> id="vTag"
>> >> >>>>>>>> style="width: 90%"/>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>                        
                    </div>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> +                      
              </div>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> +                      
              <div class="row clear"
>> >> >>>>>>>> style="display: none" id="reply-to-div">
>> >> >>>>>>>>> +
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> <b><lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_reply</lift:loc></b>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> +                      
 <span id="reply-to-span">-</span>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> +                      
 <a href="javascript: clearReplyTo()">
>> >> >>>>>>>>> +
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> <lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_remove_reply</lift:loc>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> +                      
 </a>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> +                    </div>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> +                      
              <div
>> class="post-form-row">
>> >> >>>>>>>>> +                      
                      <div
>> >> >>>>>> class="share-select">
>> >> >>>>>>>>> +
>> >> >>>>>>>> <label><lift:loc>ui_messages_share</lift:loc></label>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> +                      
                              <select
>> >> >>>>>> id="vPool"
>> >> >>>>>>>> class="inputBox2">
>> >> >>>>>>>>> +
>> >> <option
>> >> >>>>>>>> value="0">
>> >> >>>>>>>>> +
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> <lift:loc>ui_messages_message_label_message_pool_public</lift:loc>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> +
>> >> </option>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> +
>> >> >>>>>>>> <lift:UserSnip.accessPools/>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> +
>> </select>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> +                      
                      </div>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>                        
                    <div
>> >> class="update-btn">
>> >> >>>>>>>>>                        
                            <input
>> >> >>>>>> type="image"
>> >> >>>>>>>> onclick="javascript:post_msg();" src="images/btn-update.gif"
/>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>                        
                    </div>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
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