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From Anne Kathrine Petterøe <yoji...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Text wrapping in timeline and popular message/links (ESME-112 and ESME-186)
Date Sat, 03 Apr 2010 16:03:20 GMT
Until I can signup with IE7/8 I cannot test it unfortunately, but can confirm that it looks
good on FF (Win)

On 3. apr. 2010, at 15.30, Richard Hirsch wrote:

> The code drop from Monday. What sort of error do you get? Does it work on
> FF?
> 
> On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe <yojibee@gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> It works on the perf stax instance.
>> Which revision is deployed there?
>> 
>> On 3. apr. 2010, at 08.33, Richard Hirsch wrote:
>> 
>>> Have you tried it on perf stax instance?
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe <
>> yojibee@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I wanted to test in IE7, but I cannot sign up for a new account on my
>>>> machine (localhost:8080).
>>>> Is the signup page broken or is it only me?
>>>> 
>>>> /Anne
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 2. apr. 2010, at 08.27, Richard Hirsch wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for the UI-related work. It is great that others are doing UI
>> work
>>>> as
>>>>> well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Unfortunately, I'm on vacation and can't do a stax deployment until
>>>> Tuesday.
>>>>> :-<
>>>>> 
>>>>> D.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Ethan Jewett <esjewett@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I just checked in word-wrap based fixes for both the timeline and
the
>>>>>> popular messages/links. Word on the street is that this actually
>>>>>> should work in IE as well. Can someone build trunk and test, at least
>>>>>> on IE7? Any really long link with only normal characters in it (not
-)
>>>>>> should trigger the issue.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Ethan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
>>>>>> <yojibee@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> OK, so we need to find a way to deal with text wrapping.
>>>>>>> We should probably decide which browsers to support in release
1.1
>> and
>>>>>> take it from there.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 28. mars 2010, at 19.22, Ethan Jewett wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yup, understood re. big companies still using IE6. I was
just
>>>>>>>> wondering if any of our specific users (Siemens, at least)
still
>>>>>>>> consider it supported internally. If not, then it might make
sense
>> to
>>>>>>>> consider not supporting it if it is a lot of extra work.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On the messages front, it's just messages with long links,
or other
>>>>>>>> long unbroken text strings that suffer the wrapping problem.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ethan
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
>>>>>>>> <yojibee@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Is the wrapping problem for messages for all messages
or just those
>>>>>> containing long links?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The problem is that many big companies still use IE6
and won't care
>>>>>> about end-of-life dates.
>>>>>>>>> @Dick: IE6 support is still important for Siemens right?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 28. mars 2010, at 16.28, Ethan Jewett wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sounds like a good approach to me, but keep in mind
that we still
>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> the wrapping problem for messages themselves.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> What is the situation with IE6 support at places
that have this
>>>>>>>>>> deployed currently? I'm thinking since IE6 and most
IE7 versions
>>>>>>>>>> end-of-life is July 13th, those working on the UI
might not want
>> to
>>>>>>>>>> put too much effort into it.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Ethan
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 4:52 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
>>>>>>>>>> <yojibee@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I am just afraid that text wrapping is something
which will take
>> a
>>>>>> significant amount of time to get right.
>>>>>>>>>>> Remember we have support the following browsers:
>>>>>>>>>>> IE6
>>>>>>>>>>> IE7
>>>>>>>>>>> IE8
>>>>>>>>>>> Safari
>>>>>>>>>>> Firefox
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I think we should put it in the backlog for now
and remove these
>>>>>> features from the UI for the 1.1 release.
>>>>>>>>>>> What say you?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 27. mars 2010, at 15.42, Ethan Jewett wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Whoops! I just created ESME-186 and attached
it there:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ESME-186
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ethan
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Richard
Hirsch <
>>>>>> hirsch.dick@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Ethan
Jewett <
>>>> esjewett@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 4:58 AM,
Richard Hirsch <
>>>>>> hirsch.dick@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I'd like to do is use JQuery
tool tips to display the
>>>> help.
>>>>>> I just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> finished converting the action
page and just deleted the
>> help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That sounds just about perfect!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck.  Do you have suggestion
of how to display a long
>>>> url?
>>>>>> Maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a mouse-over that displays the
fulltext.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think for starters we could drop
the # of clicks and get
>> away
>>>>>> from a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> table-based model to a list-based
model in the html. That
>> helps
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compact things a bit and gives us
more ability to use CSS for
>>>>>> managing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text display. The next step is to
force wrapping, which to the
>>>>>> best of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my knowledge is not really possible
in CSS2. Fortunately CSS3
>>>> has
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "word-wrap:break-word" style, which
does exactly what we want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've attached a mock-up done using
CSS3 using this approach.
>>>> What
>>>>>> do you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Email it to me directly, since the esme-dev
mailing deamon
>>>> usually
>>>>>> kills
>>>>>>>>>>>>> attachments.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or attach it to JIRA-100 item.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As a last resort, if we can't find
a way to extend this to
>>>>>> non-CSS3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> browsers, we could probably do some
fancy JS or something to
>>>>>> insert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spaces into the text representation
of the link, allowing it
>> to
>>>>>> wrap.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about creating dialogs but
not modal dialogs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think modal dialogs and normal
dialogs suffer from the same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disadvantages in this situation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ethan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> 


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