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From Anne Kathrine Petterøe <yoji...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Text wrapping in timeline and popular message/links (ESME-112 and ESME-186)
Date Sat, 03 Apr 2010 07:54:09 GMT
It works on the perf stax instance.
Which revision is deployed there?

On 3. apr. 2010, at 08.33, Richard Hirsch wrote:

> Have you tried it on perf stax instance?
> 
> On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe <yojibee@gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> I wanted to test in IE7, but I cannot sign up for a new account on my
>> machine (localhost:8080).
>> Is the signup page broken or is it only me?
>> 
>> /Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 2. apr. 2010, at 08.27, Richard Hirsch wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks for the UI-related work. It is great that others are doing UI work
>> as
>>> well.
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately, I'm on vacation and can't do a stax deployment until
>> Tuesday.
>>> :-<
>>> 
>>> D.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Ethan Jewett <esjewett@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I just checked in word-wrap based fixes for both the timeline and the
>>>> popular messages/links. Word on the street is that this actually
>>>> should work in IE as well. Can someone build trunk and test, at least
>>>> on IE7? Any really long link with only normal characters in it (not -)
>>>> should trigger the issue.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ethan
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
>>>> <yojibee@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> OK, so we need to find a way to deal with text wrapping.
>>>>> We should probably decide which browsers to support in release 1.1 and
>>>> take it from there.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 28. mars 2010, at 19.22, Ethan Jewett wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yup, understood re. big companies still using IE6. I was just
>>>>>> wondering if any of our specific users (Siemens, at least) still
>>>>>> consider it supported internally. If not, then it might make sense
to
>>>>>> consider not supporting it if it is a lot of extra work.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On the messages front, it's just messages with long links, or other
>>>>>> long unbroken text strings that suffer the wrapping problem.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ethan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
>>>>>> <yojibee@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Is the wrapping problem for messages for all messages or just
those
>>>> containing long links?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The problem is that many big companies still use IE6 and won't
care
>>>> about end-of-life dates.
>>>>>>> @Dick: IE6 support is still important for Siemens right?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 28. mars 2010, at 16.28, Ethan Jewett wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sounds like a good approach to me, but keep in mind that
we still
>> have
>>>>>>>> the wrapping problem for messages themselves.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What is the situation with IE6 support at places that have
this
>>>>>>>> deployed currently? I'm thinking since IE6 and most IE7 versions
>>>>>>>> end-of-life is July 13th, those working on the UI might not
want to
>>>>>>>> put too much effort into it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ethan
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 4:52 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
>>>>>>>> <yojibee@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I am just afraid that text wrapping is something which
will take a
>>>> significant amount of time to get right.
>>>>>>>>> Remember we have support the following browsers:
>>>>>>>>> IE6
>>>>>>>>> IE7
>>>>>>>>> IE8
>>>>>>>>> Safari
>>>>>>>>> Firefox
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I think we should put it in the backlog for now and remove
these
>>>> features from the UI for the 1.1 release.
>>>>>>>>> What say you?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 27. mars 2010, at 15.42, Ethan Jewett wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Whoops! I just created ESME-186 and attached it there:
>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ESME-186
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Ethan
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Richard Hirsch <
>>>> hirsch.dick@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Ethan Jewett
<
>> esjewett@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 4:58 AM, Richard
Hirsch <
>>>> hirsch.dick@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I'd like to do is use JQuery tool
tips to display the
>> help.
>>>> I just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> finished converting the action page and
just deleted the help.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> That sounds just about perfect!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck.  Do you have suggestion of
how to display a long
>> url?
>>>> Maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a mouse-over that displays the fulltext.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think for starters we could drop the #
of clicks and get away
>>>> from a
>>>>>>>>>>>> table-based model to a list-based model in
the html. That helps
>>>>>>>>>>>> compact things a bit and gives us more ability
to use CSS for
>>>> managing
>>>>>>>>>>>> text display. The next step is to force wrapping,
which to the
>>>> best of
>>>>>>>>>>>> my knowledge is not really possible in CSS2.
Fortunately CSS3
>> has
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> "word-wrap:break-word" style, which does
exactly what we want.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've attached a mock-up done using CSS3 using
this approach.
>> What
>>>> do you
>>>>>>>>>>>> think?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Email it to me directly, since the esme-dev mailing
deamon
>> usually
>>>> kills
>>>>>>>>>>> attachments.
>>>>>>>>>>> Or attach it to JIRA-100 item.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> As a last resort, if we can't find a way
to extend this to
>>>> non-CSS3
>>>>>>>>>>>> browsers, we could probably do some fancy
JS or something to
>>>> insert
>>>>>>>>>>>> spaces into the text representation of the
link, allowing it to
>>>> wrap.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about creating dialogs but not modal
dialogs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think modal dialogs and normal dialogs
suffer from the same
>>>>>>>>>>>> disadvantages in this situation.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ethan
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> 


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