Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-esme-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: (qmail 65691 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2010 20:01:02 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 20 Jan 2010 20:01:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 48932 invoked by uid 500); 20 Jan 2010 20:01:02 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-esme-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 48868 invoked by uid 500); 20 Jan 2010 20:01:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact esme-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: esme-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list esme-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 48858 invoked by uid 99); 20 Jan 2010 20:01:02 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:01:02 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of robertburrelldonkin@gmail.com designates 209.85.218.217 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.218.217] (HELO mail-bw0-f217.google.com) (209.85.218.217) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:00:55 +0000 Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so4360449bwz.12 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:00:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9jD6lv6jfcFg0xbn7HqlxUnXKMQwxFK4aVsRvR6Uuyc=; b=TL+BhcrYQylkEehhlnmoUOmvjbXN29WAGFhPNLvDB+NWsaupS8nlZYfbEpDXWB85po i7PRKEKJULjnHR1D2bH/S3mgrD5bV7u6MdIGI+F+oXpCZ8spDdZNuVvllehVekth63m4 2JUo+1znEabErvQZp35MgX9V0y8UJSgDlNK44= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=voXlCS8toFRERg7TBUJ43tDcMGYHSjiHTHchX1Tim1J5n9a1KAspcs0QxiUku49/iR yPybYdXkmrRZ68uFl4/k0LeyROkvZ6rDea/HU3/raXfSXtR2DM2l47naZO3RPhggP0B4 3T8Ou7roRYlk/RN4wKCS/TrYB/wMi7+Dzk3Bc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.33.131 with SMTP id h3mr241281bkd.53.1264017633993; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:00:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4464798E-839C-40B3-8267-0A63732A0592@gmail.com> <11537819-3D20-4187-8BF8-436A28558903@dslextreme.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:00:33 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47) From: Robert Burrell Donkin To: esme-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:59 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: >>> ...I suggest you review the thread that was provided and then see if you want to reconsider your veto.... >> >> As this vote is not about a technical issue, I don't think there are >> vetos - we should have explicitely specified that this is a majority >> vote. >> >> Robert and Gianugo, did you mean to veto this with your -1s, or just >> express your disagreement with the majority? > > i consider making claims about third party copyright ownership rather > than a statement of fact is positively dangerous from a legal > perspective > > so, it's a legal team veto until i have chance to review (my exam is > tomorrow morning so i should be able to find some time in the > afternoon) > > if anyone objects or feels that i am wrong then please raise on the > legal lists. if sam ruby or a majority of the legal team folks feel > that i'm wrong then i'm happy to be outvoted. BTW Eben Moglen has an excellent article on how to do this right - robert