Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-esme-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: (qmail 99046 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2010 00:37:39 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 13 Jan 2010 00:37:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 25246 invoked by uid 500); 13 Jan 2010 00:37:39 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-esme-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 25199 invoked by uid 500); 13 Jan 2010 00:37:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact esme-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: esme-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list esme-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 25187 invoked by uid 99); 13 Jan 2010 00:37:39 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 13 Jan 2010 00:37:39 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of esjewett@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.41 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.160.41] (HELO mail-pw0-f41.google.com) (209.85.160.41) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 13 Jan 2010 00:37:31 +0000 Received: by pwj4 with SMTP id 4so2666511pwj.20 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 16:37:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9IatCwz7xQGZxC2KDgV1H0kwWuWr6LbNVAgGgYHlrM8=; b=rekXrVgaI4/YzP0mxbS7lyuWZY7F173bT5rfQFFk7oSlJ8uLqEelm1Cg8AOZ3GQc35 vmVhMDH4hS/7/Zqo6PupieyFkFanxP+dkBuoIUk5EfnSGW1HaDXRjGH/vy4/50N+nQrh QwtR1HI9VeVV5dI3uxfT0iJXfVMH+OWkF9JvE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=pHmi/IsUwygrpycy48yOvpWYaFkXKruoDbcVyhGB4f/CU5Pth/f7z8k/VvKULotZ2R eDdmrPJuVmEMsFlsF8Rb9njih0NVZK0DX20JSZATY0iFtSP9hcP66t9TfZJcwpt9R56d WVroNYXNOFlccVC4/4xX9ElwODghiKzuMDngU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.82.25 with SMTP id f25mr10474775rvb.91.1263343029797; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 16:37:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3d89f1771001121547i2c88e084rc87dc84d7f4305f2@mail.gmail.com> References: <3d89f1771001120642o3409113am7898b350c09532fd@mail.gmail.com> <345564.1512.qm@web54402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <3d89f1771001121320q251ea2canc8d02778ef7d3bd3@mail.gmail.com> <437450.60316.qm@web54410.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <3d89f1771001121335u72544197j5249ea6671e5c074@mail.gmail.com> <461642.13486.qm@web54409.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <3d89f1771001121354u56cde8ccvd92121fd1e4f911c@mail.gmail.com> <284871.56180.qm@web54401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <3d89f1771001121547i2c88e084rc87dc84d7f4305f2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:37:09 -0500 Message-ID: <68f4a0e81001121637g7c306beblbee4590af4c84ca@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Dealing with copyright issue (See ESME-47) From: Ethan Jewett To: esme-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Gianugo Rabellino wrote: > [...] Although I would > argue that no one pointed out the scary elephant in the room, that is > the fact that it is unclear whether David intended to contribute his > code under the ICLA or under the AL. I'm still wary of signing off a > release where, at a very least, we have to force our hand and make a > decision on someone else's IP that while likely being licensed to us > properly, maybe it's not. I think it's quite clear that David is licensing his copyright under the CLA, not under the Apache license. To quote from his resignation email: "PS -- My resignation in no way abrogates any rights in the copywritten materials that I have licensed to the ASF under my CLA" It's possible that originally David was under the impression that the CLA license contained exactly the same restrictions as the Apache 2.0 license, which is not the case. However, I think he clarified that for himself, or more likely meant something entirely different than what was construed in the original discussion. In this case he's being painstakingly clear in his wording. Ethan