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From Sig Rinde <...@rinde.com>
Subject Re: ESME in thingamy... a wee demo video
Date Thu, 07 Jan 2010 10:35:50 GMT
While you're freezing on tramways I did a wee post about the same :)

http://thingamy.typepad.com/sigs_blog/2010/01/process-engine-social-media-thingamy-and-esme.html


2010/1/7 Anne Kathrine Petterøe <yojibee@gmail.com>:
> Not too late at all! Thank you :)
> Just spent 1.5 hours to get to work this morning (10 km journey), so probably won't have
time to write the post until tonight.
>
> //Anne
>
>
> On 7. jan. 2010, at 09.34, Sig Rinde wrote:
>
>> [unless I'm too late]
>>
>> Don't know if the 'view' from Thingamy's side + the concept is useful?
>>
>> Anyhoo:
>>
>> Thingamy's 'Work Processor' runs the workflow without glitch with path
>> choices at most corners - punting a little 'train' of relevant and
>> inter-realted objects (Workflow/issue/request/idea object - the main
>> one + Assignment objects) through a workflow. The Assignment objects
>> holds the task instructions and captures what's done in the assignment
>> while the Workflow objects holds the details about the
>> issue/idea/request.
>> That way an Assignee is presented with a list of relevant objects, all
>> the pertinent information required for a specific task + the
>> Assignment object to fill in with result and files.
>>
>> When having been assigned a task, or when trying to get one's head
>> around the progress of a workflow there is always a need for ad-hoc
>> communication with co-workers and/or other participants, "anybody
>> know...?", "Could somebody help with...?" etc. Normally that would
>> happen by email, phone or walking over - all of which limits the
>> discovery of the unknown, like a co-worker having unknown but useful
>> knowledge or ideas.
>>
>> ESME adds that crucial part of 'Discovery & Discussion' that
>> inevitably happens during any process, in a task or when studying the
>> progress. In addition it should become the natural in-system conduit
>> for communication as well as the social pivot point, the water cooler,
>> for the group/department/firm.
>>
>> Most other E 2.0 efforts tries to add some notion of 'process' on top
>> of separate and siloed apps drifting towards becoming middleware 2.0 -
>> better is to have an underlying 'process engine' that gives the main
>> flow framework and datamodel using social media for the in-task
>> 'Discovery & Discussion'. Crucial is that the data in the two parts
>> are related - in this case any ESME message can be related to any
>> Thingamy object adding context to both sides.
>>
>> I don't know what next step, as in features, will be - our philosophy
>> is to keep it as simple as possible in the beginning and only add if
>> it makes huge sense and works in practice. So we'll see, the good
>> thing is that both ESME and Thingamy are extremely nimble and doing
>> crazy stunts underway should be easy!
>>
>> Thanks to all BTW!
>>
>> Sig
>>
>>
>> 2010/1/7 Anne Kathrine Petterøe <yojibee@gmail.com>:
>>> Great!
>>> Anything special you would like to add from your side?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7. jan. 2010, at 00.05, Sig Rinde wrote:
>>>
>>>> But of course!
>>>> :)
>>>>
>>>> 2010/1/6 Anne Kathrine Petterøe <yojibee@gmail.com>:
>>>>> Hi Sig,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for recording the video.
>>>>> I will write a post about it on the ESME blog tomorrow if that's OK with
you?
>>>>>
>>>>> /Anne
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6. jan. 2010, at 20.27, Sig Rinde wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> just uploaded a shortish (7.5 mins) demo video here http://bit.ly/92c9on
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Third try no less, hard to give it all without confusing... trying
my
>>>>>> best but I don't speak as fast as Mr Howlett :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's kept very simple, but one day when I grow up I'll get good a
demo
>>>>>> videos too...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best
>>>>>> Sig
>>>>>>
>>>>>> p.s. But overall I'm pretty enthusiastic about what ESME can add
to
>>>>>> our Work Processor... even vice-vers, just have to let it play out
>>>>>> slowly
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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