Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-esme-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: (qmail 26220 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2009 11:26:11 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Nov 2009 11:26:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 92129 invoked by uid 500); 3 Nov 2009 11:26:11 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-esme-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 92094 invoked by uid 500); 3 Nov 2009 11:26:11 -0000 Mailing-List: contact esme-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: esme-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list esme-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 92084 invoked by uid 99); 3 Nov 2009 11:26:11 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:26:11 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of hirsch.dick@gmail.com designates 209.85.218.210 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.218.210] (HELO mail-bw0-f210.google.com) (209.85.218.210) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:26:08 +0000 Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so59660bwz.20 for ; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:25:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2nAVHlqX9gsZvECltQcztG//AUX2NaSiL0jwkOhQ6HE=; b=sfJcAFBI26nH/s3EwIcviWcol9UlKvsli4CXIUbbSdZTNcaK3M+jRBOyANQVTpLG1f FBbng1HVkfjFV4ezEWhywZKG8pviqol/2Jxbz8dtSdlPdQz2nDo2j38SpWBY6hvOisc/ 9O4giSbJb7FcrdgsfjbJGkT7pfLSsenzod9mU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ZF+SBytgal8kcDtFQMNlLygsc2nEnXqrcx1uefMatDarvKuG5gWPK/fYZmEaSp84Ra IJeB8+WiuqELXR+swGay7rpKuqlxzn0/k8U0hCGeC3rLrJY4qpJGnJBqNV9cdDt107cb 0qZmUsgBlxNPherhDl80pyrnlju2vsR3KiWcc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.78.31 with SMTP id f31mr2693627mul.24.1257247546658; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:25:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:25:46 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Contact from #ubimic From: Richard Hirsch To: esme-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I also thought their vision was interesting. They were also talking about SAP-related projects. Let's see what the community thinks and then we will decide on next steps. D. On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Vassil Dichev wrote: >> We have been contacted from #ubimic (http://ubimic.org/en/ ) if we >> (ESME) would be interested in working with them. The idea would be >> that we would be associated as an associate partner and perhaps >> collaborate on projects with them. > > Very interesting, I found this on their vision statement: > > # sensors, machines, things and processes sharing data and status messages > # aggregated data from people and things > > Seems quite similar to what actions try to accomplish in the context > of different integration scenarios. > >> I don't know whether there are legal considerations involved (since we >> are a Apache project) but I just wanted to get a feeling from the >> community if we should pursue this or not. > > Legally they don't even need our "permission" to take our code and > build on it, which is the nature of the Apache License. > > Seeing that they have goals quite similar to ours, it would surely be > interesting to see what they can offer ESME. Since ESME is not meant > to be used as a central service provider, many scenarios surely > consist of customizing ESME to the needs of the specific organization. > If people want to use ESME, this should be a good thing. > > Vassil >