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From Richard Hirsch <hirsch.d...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Collaboration with #ubimic
Date Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:12:45 GMT
Just blogged about our cooperation with #ubimic
http://blog.esme.us/collaborative-efforts-with-ubimic/

D.

On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
<akpetteroe@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry, I have been so quiet on this thread.
> In between work and travels, and finishing the design of the new UI I simply
> didn't find the time.
>
> I am happy to see the collaboration take place and once the UI is up and
> running I should have more time to help you out here.
>
> /Anne
>
> On 13. nov. 2009, at 10.00, Richard Hirsch wrote:
>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> I'll work on some more details for the scenarios this weekend.
>>
>> D.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Martin Böhringer
>> <martin.boehringer@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> I pointed Marcelo from akibot to our conversation. He is very interested
>>> and
>>> will come back to us.
>>> Martin
>>>
>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>> Von: Richard Hirsch [mailto:hirsch.dick@gmail.com]
>>>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. November 2009 08:30
>>>> An: esme-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>> Betreff: Re: Collaboration with #ubimic
>>>>
>>>> I was looking at the akibot offering last night and it does look
>>>> interesting. Depending on the current akibot architecture, it might be
>>>> relatively easy to create an ESME bot based on their existing
>>>> technology.  They could market their engine as a standalone component
>>>> and offer it to customers who want to track twitter or other
>>>> microblogging systems such as ESME.  The bot could analyze the
>>>> messages and either create new messages or integrate with back-end
>>>> applications.  It would be a loosely-coupled integration.
>>>>
>>>> We talked about having tightly-integrated plugins a while back but
>>>> never looked at it in more detail.
>>>>
>>>> We should keep akibot in mind and as things develop maybe you connect
>>>> us up to see how we might collaborate.
>>>>
>>>> D.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:17 AM, Martin Böhringer
>>>> <martin.boehringer@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Dick,
>>>>>
>>>>> the current status on our student research is as following: I have a
>>>>
>>>> student
>>>>>
>>>>> who works on the LEGO thing, the hardware is all built up and the
>>>>
>>>> software
>>>>>
>>>>> part of the project starts tomorrow with a kickoff. Another student
>>>>
>>>> is
>>>>>
>>>>> working in his bachelor thesis on the "text analysis in information
>>>>
>>>> streams"
>>>>>
>>>>> topic. A bachelor thesis is not that big but I hope at least that we
>>>>
>>>> get
>>>>>
>>>>> some insights in what is possible and what not. He also should look
>>>>
>>>> at
>>>>>
>>>>> public available APIs (like opencalais and similar) and test them
>>>>
>>>> with
>>>>>
>>>>> microblogging-like texts.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know from the akibot guys (akibot.com) that they want to go in a
>>>>
>>>> similar
>>>>>
>>>>> direction like us (supporting a ubiquitous microblogging scenario
>>>>
>>>> with their
>>>>>
>>>>> artificial intelligence microblogging bot). So this might be a good
>>>>
>>>> future
>>>>>
>>>>> collaboration opportunity, too.
>>>>>
>>>>> What I would do next is looking for a student who wants to work
>>>>
>>>> intensively
>>>>>
>>>>> on the SAP/ESME scenario. Give me a view weeks for that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Vassil has a good point here with the business value. We are all
>>>>
>>>> working in
>>>>>
>>>>> microblogging and therefore say "hey, tweeting SAP systems are really
>>>>
>>>> cool".
>>>>>
>>>>> However, "normal" people might not have this enthusiasm. Until we
>>>>
>>>> have real
>>>>>
>>>>> demo systems running little mockups (GUI prototypes) might do it. We
>>>>
>>>> have it
>>>>>
>>>>> on our agenda to create a #ubimic presentation where we state out the
>>>>> motivation and the benefits. I hope to give some answers to the
>>>>
>>>> business
>>>>>
>>>>> value topic in this presentation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Martin
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>> Von: Richard Hirsch [mailto:hirsch.dick@gmail.com]
>>>>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. November 2009 23:28
>>>>>> An: esme-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>> Betreff: Re: Collaboration with #ubimic
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Martin,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I see that you are doing some pretty cool stuff (for example, "Text
>>>>>> Analysis in Information Streams: Status Quo and Future Perspectives
>>>>>> (http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/wirtschaft/wi2/wp/en/2009/08/10/text-
>>>>>> analysis-in-information-streams-status-quo-and-future-
>>>>
>>>> perspectives/)".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What about including a text analysis aspect to the collaboration?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> D.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Vassil Dichev <vdichev@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Martin,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Like I said last week when we first found out about #ubimic,
you
>>>>
>>>> seem
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to think along the same lines as the ESME team. So I can't find
a
>>>>
>>>> any
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> reason why we shouldn't cooperate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IMHO David has defined very well the differentiating
>>>>
>>>> characteristics
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> of ESME: real-time responsiveness and actions. Actions also have
>>>>
>>>> some
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> vague similarity to some Google Wave bots. More importantly,
>>>>
>>>> actions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> are important in many integration scenarios, which is the goal
of
>>>>>>> ESME.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What I'm eagerly awaiting is a description of some of the benefits
>>>>
>>>> of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the "aggregated data from people and things" in different
>>>>
>>>> scenarios,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but I guess that's one of the goals of the collaboration ideas,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>> Vassil
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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