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From Richard Hirsch <hirsch.d...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Collaboration with #ubimic
Date Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:45:56 GMT
Regarding business case: We talked about accessing xRPM via ESME a
year ago. You could very easily use the technical architecture I
described on the wiki page to deal with the LEGO-based scenario with
sensors (RFID) that Martin described.

D.

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Ethan Jewett <esjewett@gmail.com> wrote:
> All the collaboration ideas presented by Martin sound good. I do think
> that the idea of implementing an SAP use case is very attractive and I
> would be able to help out with that, either on the API side or the
> ABAP side.
>
> One question: Has there been thought on specific use cases that create
> business value and involve message- or event-oriented two-way
> interaction between an SAP system and a person using a free-form
> messaging system? I like the technical use case Dick describes on the
> wiki page, but I'd like to see it in the context of a real business
> process. Seems like this might be one of #ubimic's areas of expertise?
>
> Ethan
>
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:58 AM, Richard Hirsch <hirsch.dick@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Wiki page is now full with content / ideas.
>>
>> Setting up a simple prototype shouldn't be difficult.
>>
>> D.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Richard Hirsch <hirsch.dick@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Started a wiki page with more detailed ideas for the SAP Bot
>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ESME/Collaboration+with+ubimic
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:37 PM, David Pollak
>>> <feeder.of.the.bears@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Richard Hirsch <hirsch.dick@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Martin,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for contacting us regarding a collaboration.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it would great to collaborate on a  SAP-related use case. We
>>>>> already have a series of ABAP bots that create ESME messages based on
>>>>> certain activities (check-out of development components, etc.)  What
>>>>> about looking an an older use case with xRPM integration that we
>>>>> talked about in a blog (http://blog.esme.us/esme-bots/).
>>>>>
>>>>> We would be glad to help you in setting up an environment and we could
>>>>> also look at using our Stax test environment to integrate with the SAP
>>>>> systems on the university.
>>>>>
>>>>> What about this idea. The Stax test installation is the microblogging
>>>>> environment. An ESME bot sits in your university's network and listens
>>>>> to the message flow in this environment (using our new API). When
>>>>> messages with a certain tag are delivered, your bot then reformats
>>>>> these messages and then they are posted to the SAP system. A response
>>>>> message is then posted to the Stax user saying that the operation was
>>>>> a success / failure.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the next steps would be to further refine this idea (or
>>>>> another idea) so that a developer could develop a quick prototype.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am very keen on collaboration.  The whole Actions thing was a bit of
>>>> brain-vomit on my part that happened over a 24 hour period.  Other folks,
>>>> notably Vassil, have fleshed out and improved Actions over time.  However,
>>>> I'd be very interested in enhancing what can be done with Actions... I think
>>>> they, along with real-time information flow, distinguish ESME from most
>>>> other micromessaging platforms.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> D.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Martin Böhringer
>>>>> <martin.boehringer@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de> wrote:
>>>>> > Hi ESME community
>>>>> >
>>>>> > You discussed our suggestion for a joint project with #ubimic
>>>>> > (http://ubimic.org) last week and I wanted to get back to you with
our
>>>>> > thoughts on possible collaboration scenarios.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > First, I should tell you about #ubimic. We are a group of university
>>>>> > researchers interested in microblogging from different points of
view
>>>>> > (computer science, information systems, organizational science).
Together
>>>>> we
>>>>> > think that microblogging has great potential when it comes to integrating
>>>>> > normal users and things like sensors, machines and software. We
are
>>>>> > experimenting with different microblogging tools and scenarios.
For
>>>>> example
>>>>> > we have a current project where we use a little factory built with
LEGO
>>>>> to
>>>>> > simulate how sensors (RFID) could participate in microblogging.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > For us, two things are really cool with ESME:
>>>>> > - the "action" / "ESME bots" functionality
>>>>> > - the ESME community with its background in enterprise applications
(SAP)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Therefore, I could think of different levels of collaboration:
>>>>> > a) loosely coupled collaboration; we share information and include
each
>>>>> > other in publications (ESME could have a place as associated partner
of
>>>>> > #ubimic if you're interested)
>>>>> > b) shared work on a SAP use case: it would be really cool, if we
could
>>>>> > define a concrete use cases of tweeting SAP systems. For example
tweeting
>>>>> > Purchase Requisition or Open Items. What would be benefits (easy
access,
>>>>> > easy possibility to retweet and enrich with hashtags, ...) and what
would
>>>>> be
>>>>> > problems (rights management!, implementation costs)? What's with
the
>>>>> other
>>>>> > way round (create actions in the SAP system via microblogging postings)?
>>>>> We
>>>>> > could write a joint blog posting for each use case (or maybe even
a
>>>>> > publication/white paper).
>>>>> > c) implement a SAP use case: that would be perfect. We have running
SAP
>>>>> > systems at the university and I could try to get a student for the
>>>>> > implementation work. However, I have no knowledge of ESME and I
am sure
>>>>> that
>>>>> > your system has much more to offer (actions, ESME bots)... so I
would
>>>>> need
>>>>> > someone who supports us here.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Let me know what you think!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Btw: just to let you know in advance: we are working on a study
on
>>>>> > enterprise microblogging tools. We might come back to you in a view
days
>>>>> in
>>>>> > order to get some information on ESME (we have a standardized
>>>>> > questionnaire)...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Cheers
>>>>> > Martin
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ---
>>>>> > Dipl.-Wirt.-Inf. Martin Böhringer
>>>>> > Technische Universität Chemnitz, Fakultät für Wirtschaftswissenschaften,
>>>>> > Professur Wirtschaftsinformatik II
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Web:     http://tu-chemnitz.de/wirtschaft/wi2
>>>>> > Email:   martin.boehringer@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de
>>>>> > Xing:    http://xing.com/profile/Martin_Boehringer
>>>>> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/boehr
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>
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