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From Mrinal Wadhwa <mrinal.wad...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: UI vs. API vs. ESME server (was: Please take a look at)
Date Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:51:15 GMT
David,

I wasn't aware we already had calls for conversations, actions and pools ...
just saw them, are these fully functional, or in progress?

Thanks
Mrinal





On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 5:10 AM, David Pollak <feeder.of.the.bears@gmail.com
> wrote:

> Ethan,
>
> We've had an Air client since day 1 and have all the APIs to support the
> AIR
> client (other than user authentication).  What APIs are missing for your
> YQL
> version?
>
> Thanks,
>
> David
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Ethan Jewett <esjewett@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > It sounds like the project has been going down the road of decoupling the
> > UI
> > from the backend for a while, resulting in a situation where we are
> pretty
> > close to having the ability to use a generic UI took like Atlas to build
> > the
> > canonical front-end for ESME.
> > I assume that the interaction between the Atlas-built front-end and the
> > ESME
> > server would be based on either the existing public API or a private API.
> > I'm not sure if this is the case, but maybe David can clarify.
> >
> > Would it be of interest to the group to pursue a course of action in
> which
> > the ESME UI interacts only with publicly defined API methods (with the
> > possible exception of authentication)? This might help drive the
> evolution
> > of the API. It could also make it easier to have interchangeable UIs, so
> we
> > don't end up in UI limbo whenever a major change to the UI is proposed
> and
> > so that enterprise implementors can have an easier time deploying
> > custom(ized) UIs.
> >
> > I'm going to start working on an ESME wrapper using YQL that will call
> the
> > API pretty soon now, so hopefully that will help drive the API
> development
> > a
> > bit as well, but I figure the more people developing against the API the
> > better.
> >
> > Ethan
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 5:19 AM, Anne Kathrine Petter√łe
> > <yojibee@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > I agree with David.
> > > If Altas really is as good as it looks like, I think we should check
> out
> > > the option of switching from jQuery to Cappuccino.
> > >
> > > I think we need to clarify David's question about using non-open tools
> in
> > > Apache-hosted projects first though.
> > >
> > > /Anne
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 21. juli. 2009, at 18.55, David Pollak wrote:
> > >
> > >  On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Richard Hirsch <
> hirsch.dick@gmail.com
> > >> >wrote:
> > >>
> > >>  Question is when is the beta going to be released?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >> Dunno... but it does raise another issue... what's the Apache policy
> of
> > >> using non-open tools in order to build Apache-hosted projects?  Atlas
> is
> > >> not
> > >> open.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> We might not be able to wait until it is released. The UI (or absence
> > >>> thereof) is the main probelm at the current time.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Yeah.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> Another issue might be that we are currently focused on JQuery but
> > >>> 280atlas is Cappuccino-based.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The weight of the jQuery dependency is very light... I'd opt for the
> > cost
> > >> of
> > >> switching to Cappuccino if we had a killer GUI builder option.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> D.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:18 AM, David
> > >>> Pollak<feeder.of.the.bears@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Folks,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Please take a look at http://280atlas.com/
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Who has interest in building the ESME GUI with this tool?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> David
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
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> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
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> > >> Beginning Scala http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890
> > >> Follow me: http://twitter.com/dpp
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> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
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> Beginning Scala http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890
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