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From "David Pollak" <>
Subject Re: Conference calls, skype, etc...friendly remember that everything must happen on this list
Date Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:47:12 GMT
As you can see from the non-trivial amount of ESME chatter, we do make
decisions on the list.

>From the first days of the ESME project, we've also had scrum calls.  These
calls are not so much decision-making as they are synchronization points.
 They allow us a higher bandwidth form of communications that allow us to
"get a vibe" of the challenges that team members are facing and also to
cheer different team members on.  These were extremely valuable tools during
certain amazingly tough pushes (like the 3 weeks before the first public
demo of ESME which took place in front of 6,000 people.)

We are respecting the spirit and the letter of the Apache rules, but we are
also keeping to our various time-tested rituals that have helped forge the
ESME team.



On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:11 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz

> Hi ESME team,
> With my mentor hat on: I've seen some mentions of ESME conference
> calls, discussions over skype, etc., and I'd just like to remind
> people that in Apache projects all decisions and discussions must
> happen on the mailing lists.
> Of course, most projects have backchannels among project members:
> phone, twitter, IRC, coffee machine talk, etc...There's nothing wrong
> about that, but it is important that everything discussed over these
> "other" channels be reflected here (in summary messages for example),
> and more importantly that all decisions happen here and not on those
> channels.
> The goal is to allow all community members to participate equally in
> discussions and decisions.
> Feel free to discuss, I hope the intention is clear.
> -Bertrand

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