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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:12:43 +0100
From: "Martijn Dashorst" <martijn.dashorst@gmail.com>
To: empire-db-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Maven support for the upcoming 2.0.5 release
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What is the perceived difference between users and yourself in
building the distribution files?

Martijn

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Rainer D=F6bele <doebele@esteam.de> wrote:
> Hi Francis,
>
> What I mean by maven support is that we want users to be able to build th=
e distribution files (i.e. apache-empire-db-2.0.4-incubating and apache-emp=
ire-struts2-ext-1.0.4-incubating in http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/em=
pire-db) with Maven.
> Also it should provide projects files for Eclipse, Net Beans etc. if poss=
ible so that we don't have to supply them with the distribution.
>
> The build.xml Ant file supplied with the distribution could possibly rema=
in and still work (giving the user an option).
>
> We don't need Maven for our own development or to build the distribution.
> (Unless you can convince us that it's worthwhile)
>
> Is that how you understood it?
>
> Regards,
> Rainer
>
>
> Francis De Brabandere wrote:
>> Betreff: Re: Maven support for the upcoming 2.0.5 release
>>
>> Do I understand correctly that you want to start building the project
>> using maven instead of ant? Because you are talking about maven
>> 'support'...
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Rainer D=F6bele <doebele@esteam.de> wr=
ote:
>> > Thanks a lot Francis,
>> >
>> > I have submitted all my recent changes and I have no local changes lef=
t.
>> > Matt and Manuel should not have local changes as far as I know.
>> >
>> > There is one JIRA task still open from J=F6rg (EMPIREDB-27).
>> > J=F6rg can you please tell us whether or not you are currently working=
 on
>> this issue?
>> >
>> > I have created a new JIRA-Task for the MAVEN support.
>> > See https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/EMPIREDB-29
>> > Please use EMPIREDB-29 in your comment when you check in modified file=
s.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Rainer
>> >
>> > Francis De Brabandere wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Is there a lot of activity in subversion at the moment? The switch
>> >> should take about an evening of work (CET (UTC+1)). Are there any
>> >> active branches?
>> >> I'm willing to set everything up but you need to make sure nobody has
>> >> local modifications since everything is going to be moved.
>> >>
>> >> Francis
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Francis De Brabandere
>> >> <francisdb@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> > The first step for moving to maven is always moving everything into
>> >> > the maven layout and updating the ant scripts. This if you want a
>> >> > gradual migration.
>> >> > http://maven.apache.org/guides/introduction/introduction-to-the-
>> >> standard-directory-layout.html
>> >> >
>> >> > I suppose there will be one parent module, one main empire-db modul=
e,
>> >> > the struts integration module and some example modules
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards,
>> >> >
>> >> > Francis
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:48 AM, J=F6rg Reiher <reiher@esteam.de>
>> wrote:
>> >> >> Hi Francis,
>> >> >> first thanks for reporting the bug in the SampleConfig - that's
>> >> definitely a good start to contribute :-)!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> As Rainer already stated, the main goal for release 2.0.5 (and 1.0=
.5
>> of
>> >> struts extension respectively) should be to "mavenize" the empire-db
>> >> source code.
>> >> >> This doesn't require deep insight into empire-db, but a good
>> knowledge
>> >> of Maven. So if you feel comfortable with Maven (or you want to get
>> >> comfortable :-) then this would be great.
>> >> >> To start I'd look into other Apache (Incubator) projects to see ho=
w
>> >> they used Maven. By "mavenizing" empire-db we could get rid of some
>> >> dependencies and we'd overcome the trouble with
>> >> >> proprietary db drivers, because the user could download them from
>> the
>> >> Maven repository (we can't provide proprietary drivers in the Apache
>> svn
>> >> of course).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> There are a lot of other things that could be done for empire-db
>> that
>> >> need some more insight into the code, for example:
>> >> >> - Implementing drivers for other databases (DerbyDB comes to mind =
as
>> >> it's also an Apache project)
>> >> >> -> a starting point would be to take a closer look at the *Driver*
>> >> classes in the empire-db project, maybe even starting with a copy of
>> one
>> >> of these as a "template"
>> >> >> - Searching and reporting bugs and/or improvements
>> >> >> - Creating "extensions" for other web/gui frameworks to leverage t=
he
>> >> meta data provided by empire-db
>> >> >> -> this is of course quite time consuming and needs quite good
>> >> knowledge of the empire-db components and the targeted web/gui
>> framework
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So far,
>> >> >> I hope I could help a little bit
>> >> >> any contribution and questions are welcome,
>> >> >> so don't hesitate to post it here
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Greetings
>> >> >> jorg
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
>> >> >>> Von: Francis De Brabandere [mailto:francisdb@gmail.com]
>> >> >>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. November 2008 17:20
>> >> >>> An: empire-db-user@incubator.apache.org
>> >> >>> Cc: empire-db-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> >> >>> Betreff: Re: Maven support for the upcoming 2.0.5 release
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I might be willing to help out but I have not even tried empire-d=
b
>> >> >>> yet... What kind of skills are you looking for?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Regards
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Francis
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Rainer D=F6bele <doebele@esteam.=
de>
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>> > For the upcoming Empire-db 2.0.5. release we plan to provide
>> Maven
>> >> >>> support.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > We are however still struggling to find someone with good Maven
>> >> >>> skills who is willing to help us with that task.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > So if anyone out there is good with Maven and has the time and
>> will
>> >> >>> to support us, we would very much appreciate to hear from you.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > Rainer
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> --
>> >> >>> http://www.somatik.be
>> >> >>> Microsoft gives you windows, Linux gives you the whole house.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > http://www.somatik.be
>> >> > Microsoft gives you windows, Linux gives you the whole house.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> http://www.somatik.be
>> >> Microsoft gives you windows, Linux gives you the whole house.
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.somatik.be
>> Microsoft gives you windows, Linux gives you the whole house.
>


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