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Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 07:38:16 +0100 (BST)
From: Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>
Reply-To: Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>
Subject: Re: Seam XML config
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well, there is an important distinction between creating new beans for clas=
ses which are in a BDA and others who don't.=0A=0AIn CDI-1.0 it's not defin=
ed what happens if you do BeforeBeanDiscovery#addAnnotatedType for a class =
which is already in a BDA and would get picked up automatically. Some conta=
iners treat them as new bean information, others as default for the existin=
g one. This only gets specified in CDI-1.1 where we also have a new event P=
rocessSyntheticAnnotatedType (or so).=0A=0AThus I recommend allowing to add=
 annotatedTypes but only for classes which are not in a BDA (in other words=
: they are in a jar without a beans.xml).=0A=0AStu, Shane, what do you thin=
k about that solution? That should cover the most important use cases. All =
features beyond that are not portable in CDI-1.0.=0A=0ALieGrue,=0Astrub=0A=
=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message -----=0A> From: Shane Bryzak <sbryzak@re=
dhat.com>=0A> To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org=0A> Cc: Jason Porter =
<lightguard.jp@gmail.com>; Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>=0A> Sent: Frid=
ay, October 12, 2012 1:01 AM=0A> Subject: Re: Seam XML config=0A> =0A> I th=
ink we have to support creation of new beans.=A0 Take a look at [1], =0A> w=
hich is a blog post on configuring Drools within Spring.=A0 A little way =
=0A> down, under the sessions.xml heading he has an example showing a Drool=
s =0A> configuration.=A0 We need to be able to support the same kind of =0A=
> configuration with CDI.=0A> =0A> On 12/10/12 08:00, Jason Porter wrote:=
=0A>>  Great! Thanks Mark. Nothing really complicated here. I think the big=
=0A>>  question now, is being able to actually create new beans using the c=
onfig,=0A>>  or if we simply want to modify existing beans. For me personal=
ly I'm -1 =0A> on=0A>>  creating beans using config and +1 on modifying exi=
sting beans.=0A>> =0A>>  On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Mark Struberg <st=
ruberg@yahoo.de> =0A> wrote:=0A>> =0A>>>  sure, check the readme:=0A>>>  ht=
tps://github.com/struberg/InterDyn=0A>>> =0A>>>  LieGrue,=0A>>>  strub=0A>>=
> =0A>>> =0A>>> =0A>>> =0A>>>  ----- Original Message -----=0A>>>>  From: J=
ason Porter <lightguard.jp@gmail.com>=0A>>>>  To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.=
apache.org=0A>>>>  Cc:=0A>>>>  Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 10:58 PM=0A=
>>>>  Subject: Re: Seam XML config=0A>>>> =0A>>>>  Mark, do you have an exa=
mple for InterDyn (or whatever it's =0A> called?)=0A>>>> =0A>>>>  We also n=
eed to decide if we're going to allow creation of new =0A> beans or=0A>>>> =
 simply configure existing beans (adding / removing metadata) using =0A> th=
is=0A>>>>  configuration.=0A>>>> =0A>>>>  On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 9:54 AM, =
Pete Muir <pmuir@redhat.com> =0A> wrote:=0A>>>> =0A>>>>> =A0  Original insp=
iration for xml came from Gavin's design for =0A> CDI 1.0. I=0A>>>>  don't=
=0A>>>>> =A0  know more details about why they went this direction.=0A>>>>>=
 =0A>>>>> =A0  On 25 Sep 2012, at 00:19, Jason Porter wrote:=0A>>>>> =0A>>>=
>> =A0  > It did (maybe it still does), but at some point we =0A> decided t=
hat=0A>>>>  wasn't=0A>>>>> =A0  > recommended, I don't recall why though, p=
erhaps =0A> Stuart or Pete=0A>>>>  remembers.=0A>>>>> =A0  >=0A>>>>> =A0  >=
 On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau=0A>>>>> =A0  > <rmanni=
bucau@gmail.com>wrote:=0A>>>>> =A0  >=0A>>>>> =A0  >> each time i read this=
 kind of conf i think it should =0A> be the=0A>>>>  opposite=0A>>>>> =A0  >=
>=0A>>>>> =A0  >> why not extending beans.xml (just in the spirit, not =0A>=
 in the same=0A>>>>  file)=0A>>>>> =A0  >> adding <qualfiiers> etc?=0A>>>>>=
 =A0  >>=0A>>>>> =A0  >>=0A>>>>> =A0  >> *Romain Manni-Bucau*=0A>>>>> =A0  =
>> *Twitter: @rmannibucau*=0A>>>>> =A0  >> *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.word=
press.com/*<=0A>>>>> =A0  >> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>=0A>>>>> =A0=
  >> *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*=0A>>>>> =A0  >>=0A=
>>>>> =A0  >>=0A>>>>> =A0  >>=0A>>>>> =A0  >>=0A>>>>> =A0  >> 2012/9/25 Jas=
on Porter =0A> <lightguard.jp@gmail.com>=0A>>>>> =A0  >>=0A>>>>> =A0  >>> I=
'm going to send probably the most =0A> comprehensive example=0A>>>>  that =
exists=0A>>>>> =A0  >> about=0A>>>>> =A0  >>> what Seam XML can do:=0A>>>>>=
 =A0  >>>=0A>>>>> =A0  >>>=0A>>>>> =A0  >>>=0A>>>>> =A0  >>=0A>>>>> =0A>>> =
=0A> https://github.com/seam/config/blob/develop/examples/princess-rescue/s=
rc/main/resources/META-INF/seam-beans.xml=0A>>>>> =A0  >>>=0A>>>>> =A0  >>>=
 You can also find the Java classes that back =0A> that config at=0A>>>>> =
=A0  >>>=0A>>>>> =A0  >>>=0A>>>>> =A0  >>=0A>>>>> =0A>>> =0A> https://githu=
b.com/seam/examples/tree/master/princess-rescue/src/main/java/org/jboss/sea=
m/examples/princessrescue=0A>>>>> =A0  >>>=0A>>>>> =A0  >>> Mark, could you=
 give some examples of the stuff =0A> you would like=0A>>>>  to see=0A>>>>>=
 =A0  as=0A>>>>> =A0  >>> well?=0A>>>>> =A0  >>>=0A>>>>> =A0  >>> --=0A>>>>=
> =A0  >>> Jason Porter=0A>>>>> =A0  >>> http://lightguard-jp.blogspot.com=
=0A>>>>> =A0  >>> http://twitter.com/lightguardjp=0A>>>>> =A0  >>>=0A>>>>> =
=A0  >>> Software Engineer=0A>>>>> =A0  >>> Open Source Advocate=0A>>>>> =
=A0  >>> Author of Seam Catch - Next Generation Java =0A> Exception Handlin=
g=0A>>>>> =A0  >>>=0A>>>>> =A0  >>> PGP key id: 926CCFF5=0A>>>>> =A0  >>> P=
GP key available at: keyserver.net, pgp.mit.edu=0A>>>>> =A0  >>>=0A>>>>> =
=A0  >>=0A>>>>> =A0  >=0A>>>>> =A0  >=0A>>>>> =A0  >=0A>>>>> =A0  > --=0A>>=
>>> =A0  > Jason Porter=0A>>>>> =A0  > http://lightguard-jp.blogspot.com=0A=
>>>>> =A0  > http://twitter.com/lightguardjp=0A>>>>> =A0  >=0A>>>>> =A0  > =
Software Engineer=0A>>>>> =A0  > Open Source Advocate=0A>>>>> =A0  > Author=
 of Seam Catch - Next Generation Java Exception =0A> Handling=0A>>>>> =A0  =
>=0A>>>>> =A0  > PGP key id: 926CCFF5=0A>>>>> =A0  > PGP key available at: =
keyserver.net, pgp.mit.edu=0A>>>>> =0A>>>>> =0A>>>> =0A>>>>  --=0A>>>>  Jas=
on Porter=0A>>>>  http://lightguard-jp.blogspot.com=0A>>>>  http://twitter.=
com/lightguardjp=0A>>>> =0A>>>>  Software Engineer=0A>>>>  Open Source Advo=
cate=0A>>>>  Author of Seam Catch - Next Generation Java Exception Handling=
=0A>>>> =0A>>>>  PGP key id: 926CCFF5=0A>>>>  PGP key available at: keyserv=
er.net, pgp.mit.edu=0A>>>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>