Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-deltacloud-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: (qmail 84211 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2011 03:41:57 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 15 Feb 2011 03:41:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 69873 invoked by uid 500); 15 Feb 2011 03:41:57 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-deltacloud-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 69774 invoked by uid 500); 15 Feb 2011 03:41:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact deltacloud-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: deltacloud-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list deltacloud-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 69755 invoked by uid 99); 15 Feb 2011 03:41:53 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 03:41:53 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of dug@us.ibm.com designates 32.97.110.149 as permitted sender) Received: from [32.97.110.149] (HELO e31.co.us.ibm.com) (32.97.110.149) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 03:41:43 +0000 Received: from d03relay01.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay01.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.226]) by e31.co.us.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p1F3QZwM004950 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 20:26:35 -0700 Received: from d03av06.boulder.ibm.com (d03av06.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.245]) by d03relay01.boulder.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id p1F3fJnV085370 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 20:41:19 -0700 Received: from d03av06.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av06.boulder.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id p1F3jsJ8019773 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 20:45:54 -0700 Received: from d03nm119.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm119.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.145]) by d03av06.boulder.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVin) with ESMTP id p1F3jsl8019769 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 20:45:54 -0700 In-Reply-To: <1297733017.4249.30.camel@avon.watzmann.net> To: deltacloud-dev@incubator.apache.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [QUESTION] Alternative way how to use Deltacloud X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 7.0 HF144 February 01, 2006 From: Doug Davis Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:41:17 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM119/03/M/IBM(Release 8.5.1FP2|March 17, 2010) at 02/14/2011 20:41:17, Serialize complete at 02/14/2011 20:41:17 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0014406185257838_=" X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --=_alternative 0014406185257838_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" David Lutterkort wrote on 02/14/2011 08:23:37 PM: ... > > It seems to me like a way how 'fog' or 'libcloud' is going and I'm not sure > > if we want to support this way as well. > > I don't want to go that way - we should stress that the value of > Deltacloud lies in (a) the REST API and (b) that all the heavy lifting > is done on the server, keeping the clients very simple. David, can you elaborate on this? What's the benefit of the REST API? It would seem to me that the benefit is the abstraction layer above all of the providers regardless of whether its being presented via REST, Ruby, Java, or whatever. IMO, what people are looking for is the ability to talk to multiple providers with minimal specialization code. Seems to me that offering them the choice of an http-hop model vs a client-side-adapter model should be left up to the client to decide. Not everyone likes or can support a multi-hop model. Either way, let them make the choice but whatever they choose give them the benefits of the DeltaCloud engine. thanks, -Doug --=_alternative 0014406185257838_=--