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Subject [Incubator Wiki] Update of "Strawman" by johndament
Date Fri, 16 Jan 2015 15:31:25 GMT
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What if a mentor is *required* to be an active participant of the project. That is contributing
code, voting on releases and generally engaging with the community, they would be a better
mentor since they have a vested interest in the project itself. Sure, we might reduce the
number of projects coming into the foundation but (IMHO) that is not a problem. Our goal as
a foundation is not to be large, it is to be high quality.

Maybe we should simply scrap the idea of "mentors" and change the role of the "champion" to
one of an initial committer who will help build an Apache project as it incubates and into
being a TLP.

We could scrap the role of shepherd and change the role of mentors. A team of 9 mentors would
meet monthly to review *all* podlings reports (as submitted by the champion). Their responsibility
is not to engage with the projects but to review the reports crafted by the champion. Any
follow up actions would be taken by a single mentor and podlings (especially the champion)
are expected to address the issues raised.

If a champion's priorities change during the course of incubation then the project must find
another champion (potentially from within their own ranks) who is sufficiently qualified and
committed to take on the responsibility. The important thing is that the Champion is personally
invested in seeing the podling succeed and acts as a true mentor (as opposed to someone with
a title and an entry on a web page). The champion is still answerable to the podling community.
Where conflict arises within the community they can call upon the IPMC mentoring team to ask
for independent guidance.

This model is almost identical to the way the board and TLPs work (where Champions are roughly
equivalent to PMC Chairs and mentors (nee shepherds) are roughly equivalent to Directors and
he monthly meeting is roughly equivalent to the monthly board meeting to review TLP reports).
I've designed it this way (and proposed the same solution before) because it is proven to
work for TLPs and we have tooling to assist with the process.

I look forward to the PMC tearing this strawman proposal apart and (most importantly) suggesting
alternatives and/or tweaks of value. We've been skirting this issue for far too long. Things
have improved (thanks to all who have worked hard on this), but we have not yet solved the

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